Epic threatens to bring Gears to ps3...

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I distinctly remember Cliffy bragging that they cost MS over a billion because they pushed for more RAM.

And... Isn't it reasonable to think that profiteering involves some type of profit? Last time I heard, MS is still losing money on the 360.

ParadiddleFill

Maybe they are losing money on console production, however they can still regain it back with strong game sales and things like extra controllers, plus the XBL fee which in truth so far has payed for nothing except going right back into Microsoft's pocket. Since Microsoft isnt using dedicated servers for pretty much any of their games, they are charging users for basically nothing. Unreal Tournament 3 will be P2P just like Gears of War, since you have to host a game on your server unless you are using one of the dedicated servers that Epic will host (they did that with UT2k4, I dont see why they wouldnt do it again).

actually that way microsoft doesnt lose money on hosting there own servers like sony is doing when making there online free and hosting there games 

Do you know how many games and all the extras actually have to be sold in order to make up for the losses that a company is taking per system? Developers get a large chunk of what a game sells for, they have to make a profit on the games they make so they can pay the people who make them. Microsoft has to pay their staff to keep producing updates for Xbox live and adding more content all the time. Do you think Sony or M$ are making boat loads of money when they are losing about 300 dollars on each system they make? Because they dont, and at the end of the day, you need to sell a certain amount of copies of a game to break even and then companies need to keep selling more to get profit out of it.

The PS3 couldn't run GEOW! :lol:

 

PS3_3DO

ur joking right or are you waiting for UT3 to shut u up...

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

ParadiddleFill

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

ParadiddleFill

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

they screwed up by causing friction w/ EPIC, EPIC is an amazing developer.

they could piss off microsoft by making games ps3 exclusives 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I distinctly remember Cliffy bragging that they cost MS over a billion because they pushed for more RAM.

And... Isn't it reasonable to think that profiteering involves some type of profit? Last time I heard, MS is still losing money on the 360.

DSgamer64

Maybe they are losing money on console production, however they can still regain it back with strong game sales and things like extra controllers, plus the XBL fee which in truth so far has payed for nothing except going right back into Microsoft's pocket. Since Microsoft isnt using dedicated servers for pretty much any of their games, they are charging users for basically nothing. Unreal Tournament 3 will be P2P just like Gears of War, since you have to host a game on your server unless you are using one of the dedicated servers that Epic will host (they did that with UT2k4, I dont see why they wouldnt do it again).

actually that way microsoft doesnt lose money on hosting there own servers like sony is doing when making there online free and hosting there games

Do you know how many games and all the extras actually have to be sold in order to make up for the losses that a company is taking per system? Developers get a large chunk of what a game sells for, they have to make a profit on the games they make so they can pay the people who make them. Microsoft has to pay their staff to keep producing updates for Xbox live and adding more content all the time. Do you think Sony or M$ are making boat loads of money when they are losing about 300 dollars on each system they make? Because they dont, and at the end of the day, you need to sell a certain amount of copies of a game to break even and then companies need to keep selling more to get profit out of it.

there making money off the maps the sell on xbox live not just xbox live itself. Which is why there doing it in the first place they wanna make more money i dont see why people are pissed 

Who cares? Im backing sony on that one.

you can back sony on it all you want but in the end its more money out of sonys pocket

Again, why should I care? More money for me, less for them, the complete opposite attitude of M$, not only is it less money but its BETTER, dedicated servers are amazing, and I find it laughable that you cant even use them, missing out on so much fun. 

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I distinctly remember Cliffy bragging that they cost MS over a billion because they pushed for more RAM.

And... Isn't it reasonable to think that profiteering involves some type of profit? Last time I heard, MS is still losing money on the 360.

mikasa

You're taking this out of context. M$ wanted to go with 256MB RAM. Cliffy convinced them that 512 is the minimum needed to do great games and give the leap users are expecting. Cliffy was right. Yes it cost Microsoft money but in the long wrong it has paid off and I'm sure M$ agrees.

Production cost is production cost and is wholly relevant to this discussion.  It's not out of context at all.

Define the term "paid off".  Paid off as in better performance, yes.  Paid off as in lower production costs... absolutely not... quite the opposite.  And they have to make up that cost somehow... hmmm... I wonder how........ that's right... software sales.

The bottom line return on their investment is just a little farther out because of that.

[QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

ParadiddleFill

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

So making money instead of consumor happyness is back up by the consumers these days huh? No, theres nothing wrong with speaking up against such things, particully because previous gaming experiances didnt envolve this milking trash. 

I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.JiveT

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

makingmusic476

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

if gears didnt come on the 360 it wouldent of sold the way it did Epic needed microsoft much more then microsoft needed epic. Microsof might bw screwing the consumer but there making money which they hope to turn a profit from i dont understand how thats screwing up

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]i hope everyone knows this story came from a sony website called sonyprotectiongroup.com so i would take this information with a grain of saltBlazeDragon132

I don't know about the gears coming to PS3, but the falling out of EPIC over the map packs is nothing new, they were going to release them for free until they were basically told NO.

Totally, Epic is making a stand for gamers by saying MS is wrong for not letting them go free. Valve will also no probably release any content for 360 version of Half-Life Ep 2 due to them sticking with free. PS3 version will probably get all content though. 

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.e20Dylan

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft 

i dont think epic is stupid enough. theyre making games on 2 of MS's platforms which means MS is their bread and butter. until linux starts outweighing windows in the gaming department i dont see epic doing anything too piss of MS.johnusabeis

MS dont have control of what games go on Windows, only the games published my Games for Windows, M$ doesnt control what is put on the PC, unless its harmful ect. 

[QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft 

Imagine where Sony would be without all the franchises that started on Nintendo

[QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares! 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.Meu2k7

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money. 

[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]things look very dark for the 360 right about nowDoctorBunny

You keep making replies and aren't reading anything?

Things are looking very dark because Gears of War 1 AND 2 are exclusive to 360? Please tell me how that is looking very dark

silly silly cow

Well it could mean that future Epic projects could be ps3 and pc exclisive you know......besides GeOW 2 

[QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I distinctly remember Cliffy bragging that they cost MS over a billion because they pushed for more RAM.

And... Isn't it reasonable to think that profiteering involves some type of profit? Last time I heard, MS is still losing money on the 360.

VoodooHak

You're taking this out of context. M$ wanted to go with 256MB RAM. Cliffy convinced them that 512 is the minimum needed to do great games and give the leap users are expecting. Cliffy was right. Yes it cost Microsoft money but in the long wrong it has paid off and I'm sure M$ agrees.

Production cost is production cost and is wholly relevant to this discussion.  It's not out of context at all.

Define the term "paid off".  Paid off as in better performance, yes.  Paid off as in lower production costs... absolutely not... quite the opposite.  And they have to make up that cost somehow... hmmm... I wonder how........ that's right... software sales.

The bottom line return on their investment is just a little farther out because of that.

I agree with that but the idea of him bragging wasn't to say he got over on M$, but to say we should all be thanking him for the 512MB RAM.

[QUOTE="dxmcat"]

watch out! microsoft just might have such little development talent that they will try and buy out epic! COUGH bungie COUGH.

oops.

Neal_Gore

Bungie has more talent than all the developers in Japan

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money.

Give me a source saying that Epic Needed MS, It was doing fine previously, its more Like M$ wanted EPIC badly, badly enough to upgrade the entire console for thier wishes.

And badly enough to buy out the PC/PS3 exlsutivity of Unreal Tournement 3. 

[QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft 

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft  (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.Meu2k7

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money.

Give me a source saying that Epic Needed MS, It was doing fine previously, its more Like M$ wanted EPIC badly, badly enough to upgrade the entire console for thier wishes.

its obvious Gears of war wouldent of sold the way it did without Microsoft you dont need a link to show that. Epic knew this thats why they did release it on the pc at the same time 

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

ParadiddleFill

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

if gears didnt come on the 360 it wouldent of sold the way it did Epic needed microsoft much more then microsoft needed epic. Microsof might bw screwing the consumer but there making money which they hope to turn a profit from i dont understand how thats screwing up

Who knew that consoles sell games.  I would've thought that games sold consoles.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.treyskillz

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

there not going to lose epic because then they would lose pc support cause you know microsoft owns alittle thing called Windows maybe youve heard of it 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

makingmusic476

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

if gears didnt come on the 360 it wouldent of sold the way it did Epic needed microsoft much more then microsoft needed epic. Microsof might bw screwing the consumer but there making money which they hope to turn a profit from i dont understand how thats screwing up

Who knew that consoles sell games. I would've thought that games sold consoles.

you yhink it would of sold the same way had it been on the pc? or would of made that much profit that it did without the help of xbox live?  

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money.

Give me a source saying that Epic Needed MS, It was doing fine previously, its more Like M$ wanted EPIC badly, badly enough to upgrade the entire console for thier wishes.

its obvious Gears of war wouldent of sold the way it did without Microsoft you dont need a link to show that. Epic knew this thats why they did release it on the pc at the same time

It still doesnt matter, what are you not getting? That ammount of money was way over expectations, it was way past the needed ammount, the ammounts of the previous games on consoles and Unreal's great success on the PC was more than enough to tide them over, it still would of been better for them to place it on both, but what is done is done.

Now theyre causing beef with M$, EPIC made the FPS genre what it is today, competitive, and high quality, M$ knew this and wanted them badly.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="mikasa"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I distinctly remember Cliffy bragging that they cost MS over a billion because they pushed for more RAM.

And... Isn't it reasonable to think that profiteering involves some type of profit? Last time I heard, MS is still losing money on the 360.

mikasa

You're taking this out of context. M$ wanted to go with 256MB RAM. Cliffy convinced them that 512 is the minimum needed to do great games and give the leap users are expecting. Cliffy was right. Yes it cost Microsoft money but in the long wrong it has paid off and I'm sure M$ agrees.

Production cost is production cost and is wholly relevant to this discussion. It's not out of context at all.

Define the term "paid off". Paid off as in better performance, yes. Paid off as in lower production costs... absolutely not... quite the opposite. And they have to make up that cost somehow... hmmm... I wonder how........ that's right... software sales.

The bottom line return on their investment is just a little farther out because of that.

I agree with that but the idea of him bragging wasn't to say he got over on M$, but to say we should all be thanking him for the 512MB RAM.

It certainly has its benefits. At the same time, MS ate the initial cost... at absolutely no cost to Epic. But now...Epic's complaining. I would understand it if they took a real stand and declined their cut of the DLC revenue. But they're not, are they?

I mean... there are other ways to handle this. But frankly, we're not privy to what they've discussed with MS so far, so our speculation will hold only so much truth.

Bottom line for me is.... let the business men handle the business. I don't have the time or energy to think on it for too long. I'll just play my games. If I think the DLC is worth it, I'll buy it. If think think a game is worth it, I'll buy it. If they'e not worth it, I won't. There's always something to play regardless.... whether that be an Epic game or some other developer.

Doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.

I guess that's a long-winded way for me to say that I don't care how much Epic whines.  And I don't care how much money MS makes or loses.  What those two do with each other is up to their highly paid legal/marketing/sales teams.  I have games to play.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

makingmusic476

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

if gears didnt come on the 360 it wouldent of sold the way it did Epic needed microsoft much more then microsoft needed epic. Microsof might bw screwing the consumer but there making money which they hope to turn a profit from i dont understand how thats screwing up

Who knew that consoles sell games.  I would've thought that games sold consoles.

:lol:....Amen to that.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.Meu2k7

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money.

Give me a source saying that Epic Needed MS, It was doing fine previously, its more Like M$ wanted EPIC badly, badly enough to upgrade the entire console for thier wishes.

its obvious Gears of war wouldent of sold the way it did without Microsoft you dont need a link to show that. Epic knew this thats why they did release it on the pc at the same time

It still doesnt matter, what are you not getting? That ammount of money was way over expectations, it was way past the needed ammount, the ammounts of the previous games on consoles and Unreal's great success on the PC was more than enough to tide them over, it still would of been better for them to place it on both, but what is done is done.

Now theyre causing beef with M$, EPIC made the FPS genre what it is today, competitive, and high quality, M$ knew this and wanted them badly.

Epic knew the success of xbox live and halo2 which is why they decided to go with  xbox 360 its not like microsoft forced them to make a game for the 360. Epic knew that if they did they would profit big time and thats what happend 

[QUOTE="MTBare"]Not going to happen, but it would be nice if games got that cheap.Twisted_Hawk

Can I see your magic ball?

MS game studios.

[QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="makingmusic476"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"]

M$ screws up again ...

Epic FTW

ironcreed

how did microsoft screw up? by making money? oh i guess thats always a good way to screw yourself

if gears didnt come on the 360 it wouldent of sold the way it did Epic needed microsoft much more then microsoft needed epic. Microsof might bw screwing the consumer but there making money which they hope to turn a profit from i dont understand how thats screwing up

Who knew that consoles sell games. I would've thought that games sold consoles.

:lol:....Amen to that.

whats funny is that being on a certain console does cause more sale of your game rather than being on another console. If Gears of war was a ps3 game it would of sold at dreadful levels and wouldent of made any money. Being on xbox 360 with the high installed base and xbox live cause gears of war to sell the way it did and profit the way it did  

[QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

there not going to lose epic because then they would lose pc support cause you know microsoft owns alittle thing called Windows maybe youve heard of it 

really microsoft owns windows... u really must not know much if you think epic would lose pc support if tey drop MS

once again

PC =/= Windows

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.treyskillz

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

there not going to lose epic because then they would lose pc support cause you know microsoft owns alittle thing called Windows maybe youve heard of it

really microsoft owns windows... u really must not know much if you think epic would lose pc support if tey drop MS

once again

PC =/= Windows

umm windows is pc gaming what operating system is epic going to use mac  haha 

[QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

there not going to lose epic because then they would lose pc support cause you know microsoft owns alittle thing called Windows maybe youve heard of it

really microsoft owns windows... u really must not know much if you think epic would lose pc support if tey drop MS

once again

PC =/= Windows

umm windows is pc gaming what operating system is epic going to use mac haha

noob much? or blinded from fanboyism 

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="treyskillz"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.sPOON_f33dU

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

on PS3 or PC I'd imagine (like UT)

PC =/= microsoft (they're hundreds of topics on this)

So the chance of losing epic and one of MS's biggest series to the competition isn't screwing up?

I wonder if losing GeOW 3 will be worth having a few extra bucks for a GeOW mappack...

there not going to lose epic because then they would lose pc support cause you know microsoft owns alittle thing called Windows maybe youve heard of it

really microsoft owns windows... u really must not know much if you think epic would lose pc support if tey drop MS

once again

PC =/= Windows

umm windows is pc gaming what operating system is epic going to use mac haha

noob much? or blinded from fanboyism

haha wait what operating system do most pc gamers use? did i just wake up and all of a sudden people are using Unix enviorments? haha  

[QUOTE="souledge474"]

it will never happen

if it did though...cows would be hyping it to no end

Deactivation

I gurantee it would not longer be called "Gears of Jaggies" or "6 hour boring game" or "only 8 player online lol" ever again.

No it would be called "Gears of Choppy", "GoW 2020" or "Gears of 20FPS". It wouldn't be a smooth transition I can guarantee that.

But I thought Gears wasn't possible on PS3:?

TEH RAM!!111!!:roll: 

[QUOTE="Deactivation"][QUOTE="souledge474"]

it will never happen

if it did though...cows would be hyping it to no end

blackace

I gurantee it would not longer be called "Gears of Jaggies" or "6 hour boring game" or "only 8 player online lol" ever again.

No it would be called "Gears of Choppy", "GoW 2020" or "Gears of 20FPS". It wouldn't be a smooth transition I can guarantee that.

Gears: Where'd all the textures go?

"Cliff Bleszinski of Epic has even been quoted as threatening Microsoft to port over GeOW to the PS3"

And where is that quote be ? 

It's interesting for sure but if they've signed a contract to make it exclusive then it has to remain that way, not matter whether or not the bosses do not like each other.

I'd obviously welcome Gears on the PS3. 

Oh man, this thread is the ultimate example of fanboy logic.

Lemmings have been using GeoW to claim ownage ever since the game came out: "GeoW has better graphics.", "GeoW is teh awesome!", "PS3 doesn't have a game like GeoW!", etc. Almost every single lemming praised GeoW and complained about M$ charging for the maps when Epic wanted to give them out for free.

And now that Epic has threatened porting GeoW to the PS3 in protest of M$ forcing them to do things they are against, they are suddenly the bad guys.

"Epic is pretending to be the hero while taking your money with their other hand!"

Boohoo. Just a few weeks ago most of you were praising Epic for standing up against M$, but now that the PS3 has entered the equation you say Epic is just as greedy as M$.

Pathetic.

[QUOTE="Deactivation"][QUOTE="souledge474"]

it will never happen

if it did though...cows would be hyping it to no end

blackace

I gurantee it would not longer be called "Gears of Jaggies" or "6 hour boring game" or "only 8 player online lol" ever again.

No it would be called "Gears of Choppy", "GoW 2020" or "Gears of 20FPS". It wouldn't be a smooth transition I can guarantee that.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="e20Dylan"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I wonder if the relationship is really falling apart or this is just a lot of guff. Gears was impressive and a big seller but its not the end of the world if they lose it.ParadiddleFill

imagine where microsoft would be without gears

imagine where gears would be without microsoft

Released later on the PC, much larger online, better graphics and mod support. Sales? Who the hell cares!

Epic cares thats why they needed microsoft they wanted the money.

Give me a source saying that Epic Needed MS, It was doing fine previously, its more Like M$ wanted EPIC badly, badly enough to upgrade the entire console for thier wishes.

its obvious Gears of war wouldent of sold the way it did without Microsoft you dont need a link to show that. Epic knew this thats why they did release it on the pc at the same time 

That's a fact. It would have never sold over 3 million copies on the PC. Halo 1 didn't sell as many on the PC. Epic knew they would make a killing on the 360 if the game lived up to the hype and it did. GoW2 will be even bigger because there will be even more XBox 360 in gamers home by the time the sequel is released. Epic isn't going to throw that away. Sure GoW will come out on the PC a year later, but like Halo 1 & 2, not many people will really care.