Nvidia GTX 780 outperforms Titan * Next-gen Consoles are so DEAD

i5 CPU $224 Corsair HX850 PSU $159 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair Vengeance $52 Asus P8Z68-V Motherboard $123 Samsung Spinpoint $79 Windows $99 780 GTX $649. Grand Total $1385 The look on your face when you see console running most PC games at less than one 3rd of the price of your system priceless...:lol:tormentos

lol because i buy whole system instead of upgrading, smart!!!

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How are consoles dead, when they are the only ones with worthy exclusive games ?

PC is so irrelevant that i never had to upgrade my PCs for graphics for 12+ years now

I only came close with Witcher 2 but was confirmed for xbox 360 before i do that stupid move

Not a single worthy exclusive means getting those cards is useless, it is like buying a ferrari to use in a valcanic island without roads

loosingENDS

Star Citizen, Rome 2 Total War > any exclusive next gen consoles will have.

I mostly play RPGs and adventures and so these games mean nothing to me

I would trade all recent startegy games for an hour of Demon Souls personally

Multiplate over your exclusives.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]i5 CPU $224 Corsair HX850 PSU $159 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair Vengeance $52 Asus P8Z68-V Motherboard $123 Samsung Spinpoint $79 Windows $99 780 GTX $649. Grand Total $1385 The look on your face when you see console running most PC games at one 3rd of the price of your system priceless...:lol:jhonMalcovich

Will last 7 years though :roll:

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]i5 CPU $224 Corsair HX850 PSU $159 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair Vengeance $52 Asus P8Z68-V Motherboard $123 Samsung Spinpoint $79 Windows $99 780 GTX $649. Grand Total $1385 The look on your face when you see console running most PC games at one 3rd of the price of your system priceless...:lol:tormentos

Will last 7 years though :roll:

Does it also play games at 1080p and 60fps ? :roll: Besides what load of exclusives is coming ? 

lol because i buy whole system instead of upgrading, smart!!!Bebi_vegeta

Playing last gen games held back by last gen consoles. On a Graphics card, and then just assuming that it will be able to plow through the upcoming games after the generational leap. :lol: :lol::lol:

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Star Citizen, Rome 2 Total War > any exclusive next gen consoles will have.

jhonMalcovich

I mostly play RPGs and adventures and so these games mean nothing to me

I would trade all recent startegy games for an hour of Demon Souls personally

Dark Souls 2 is developed on PC though :roll: Witcher 3 as well. 

How about Wasteland 2, Shaddow Runner, Project Ethernity, Divinity: Original Sin ? All of them are RPGs.

The Longest Journey, adventure ?

I never said i wont be gaming on PC

The talk here is about getting a super expensive gaming cutting edge PC and declare consoles dead for that

Obviosuly i can (and will) play kickstarter games on any 10+ years old PC and everyone has such a PC

but that was not the discussion here

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Will last 7 years though :roll:

jhonMalcovich

Does it also play games at 1080p and 60fps ? :roll:

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]lol because i buy whole system instead of upgrading, smart!!!tormentos

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] My PS3 is 7 years and got crysis 3 and has a truck load of exclusives this year coming,even that a new version of the console is coming.:lol:tormentos

Does it also play games at 1080p and 60fps ? :roll:

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]i5 CPU $224 Corsair HX850 PSU $159 8GB 1600Mhz DDR3 Corsair Vengeance $52 Asus P8Z68-V Motherboard $123 Samsung Spinpoint $79 Windows $99 780 GTX $649. Grand Total $1385 The look on your face when you see console running most PC games at one 3rd of the price of your system priceless...:lol:tormentos

Will last 7 years though :roll:

Is PS4 BC ?

its always nice to spend ~600$ on a gpu and have some games dropping to low 20's fps :lol:silversix_

[QUOTE="silversix_"]its always nice to spend ~600$ on a gpu and have some games dropping to low 20's fps :lol:razu2444

What resolution ?

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] My PS3 is 7 years and got crysis 3 and has a truck load of exclusives this year coming,even that a new version of the console is coming.:lol:tormentos

Does it also play games at 1080p and 60fps ? :roll:

Upsaled =/= native 1080p

"most of them at 60 frames no,but is the same game with the same gameplay and i did not had to upgrade it run on my 7 year old console"

Liar :P

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Does it also play games at 1080p and 60fps ? :roll:

mitu123

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]lol because i buy whole system instead of upgrading, smart!!!Bebi_vegeta

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Upscale yes to 1080p most of them at 60 frames no,but is the same game with the same gameplay and i did not had to upgrade it run on my 7 year old console.Jonwh18

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] The 780GTX alone is $649 dollars that is probably $250 more than a PS4 will cost nice try..:lol:tormentos

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

Because PC has more games. Next gen consoles need to sell at least 10M units at launch, otherwise they will have as many exlusives as WiiU:P

PC is the safest bet. More expensive but safest.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] The 780GTX alone is $649 dollars that is probably $250 more than a PS4 will cost nice try..:lol:tormentos

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

How do you know that 7950 is only marginally better graphics than PS4? Ignoring that new cards will be available around PS4 launch

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

lostrib

How do you know that 7950 is only marginally better graphics than PS4? Ignoring that new cards will be available around PS4 launch

Lostrib has a point. By Crismas, Nvidia will release cheeper versions of GTX780: GTX770 and GTX760. All of them will destroy 7950. GTX670 will become a budget video card.

By Chrismas, PS4 will compete with a 600$ PC powered by GTX670. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But you would not get top end graphics which is the whole point,why pay $300 for a 7950 to get marginal better graphics at best than the PS4.? So you need something great and sadly that cost allot arguing against the PS4 using nothing but the best is a joke,what is the purpose of getting just a bit better graphics over the PS4,i see no point in that so nothing but the best or the argument is a joke.jhonMalcovich

How do you know that 7950 is only marginally better graphics than PS4? Ignoring that new cards will be available around PS4 launch

Lostrib has a point. By Crismas, Nvidia will release cheeper versions of GTX780: GTX770 and GTX760. All of them will destroy 7950. GTX670 will become a budget video card.

By Chrismas, PS4 will compete with a 600$ PC powered by GTX670. 

Also AMD HD9xxx series is rumored to come around that time

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

jhonMalcovich

Because PC has more games. Next gen consoles need to sell at least 10M units at launch, otherwise they will have as many exlusives as WiiU:P

PC is the safest bet. More expensive but safest.

PC has zero games really

Any JRPGs ? None

3DS right now is a billion times more appealing than PC

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But you would not get top end graphics which is the whole point,why pay $300 for a 7950 to get marginal better graphics at best than the PS4.? So you need something great and sadly that cost allot arguing against the PS4 using nothing but the best is a joke,what is the purpose of getting just a bit better graphics over the PS4,i see no point in that so nothing but the best or the argument is a joke.loosingENDS

Because PC has more games. Next gen consoles need to sell at least 10M units at launch, otherwise they will have as many exlusives as WiiU:P

PC is the safest bet. More expensive but safest.

PC has zero games really

Any JRPGs ? None

3DS right now is a billion times more appealing than PC

PC has tons of games including JRPGs

High end PC gaming that must be seen to fully understand. Playing games with better textures, lighting and physx at 1440p resolutions or better makes a huge difference. Big enough that I repurchased games like Borderlands 2 and Sleeping Dogs. I own all current gen consoles and will buy a PS4 and Xbox One, but if a game is released on PC that's what I'm going to buy it for. I don't play consoles for the graphics. I play them for exclusives and unique experiences. GoldenElementXL

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]High end PC gaming that must be seen to fully understand. Playing games with better textures, lighting and physx at 1440p resolutions or better makes a huge difference. Big enough that I repurchased games like Borderlands 2 and Sleeping Dogs. I own all current gen consoles and will buy a PS4 and Xbox One, but if a game is released on PC that's what I'm going to buy it for. I don't play consoles for the graphics. I play them for exclusives and unique experiences. tormentos

wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusing

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Because I need to buy a 780gtx.., grasping for straws ftw!

lostrib

How do you know that 7950 is only marginally better graphics than PS4? Ignoring that new cards will be available around PS4 launch

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But you would not get top end graphics which is the whole point,why pay $300 for a 7950 to get marginal better graphics at best than the PS4.? So you need something great and sadly that cost allot arguing against the PS4 using nothing but the best is a joke,what is the purpose of getting just a bit better graphics over the PS4,i see no point in that so nothing but the best or the argument is a joke.tormentos

How do you know that 7950 is only marginally better graphics than PS4? Ignoring that new cards will be available around PS4 launch

Uh huh, where is the PS4 in there?

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But you would not get top end graphics which is the whole point,why pay $300 for a 7950 to get marginal better graphics at best than the PS4.? So you need something great and sadly that cost allot arguing against the PS4 using nothing but the best is a joke,what is the purpose of getting just a bit better graphics over the PS4,i see no point in that so nothing but the best or the argument is a joke.loosingENDS

Because PC has more games. Next gen consoles need to sell at least 10M units at launch, otherwise they will have as many exlusives as WiiU:P

PC is the safest bet. More expensive but safest.

PC has zero games really

Any JRPGs ? None

3DS right now is a billion times more appealing than PC

3DS will be included into next gen consoles bundles ? :P Or you have to buy it separately anyway ?

Still nobody stops you from buying Wii/Ps2 games and enulating them on PC:P 

PC does what next gen consoles don´t. It may play games of legacy systems:P

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"]High end PC gaming that must be seen to fully understand. Playing games with better textures, lighting and physx at 1440p resolutions or better makes a huge difference. Big enough that I repurchased games like Borderlands 2 and Sleeping Dogs. I own all current gen consoles and will buy a PS4 and Xbox One, but if a game is released on PC that's what I'm going to buy it for. I don't play consoles for the graphics. I play them for exclusives and unique experiences. lostrib

wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusing

wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusinglostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusingtormentos

so graphics do matter? will you people make up your minds!

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] No it doesn't graphics sure are nice but they will not change the gameplay at all,which is why all 360 arguments about superior version were sh** as well,you want to talk superiority talk about features the game could have on PC rather than more polygons or textures PC will always be ahead and it will always be ultra expensive compare to consoles. Now Mods is one of the least used weapons over consoles and is 100 times better excuse to get a PC than graphics,i know i use to game on PC as well and mods alone add a ton of gameplay to your game,now consoles can get mods,is sad that developers don't push it more on consoles,like Epic did with UT3 on PS3 were the mods were even compatible PC ones.clyde46

wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusing

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

wait so now graphics don't matter? after all those PS4/KZ GDDR5 circle jerks? y'all are confusing

Jonwh18

Uh huh, where is the PS4 in there?lostrib

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Yay for moving the goal posts.clyde46

so graphics do matter? will you people make up your minds!

lostrib

stupid sauce all of you...

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] I have a question for you about my MBP. 

Jonwh18

Nobody makes games for the PC anymore except Valve and they still use the 9 years old Source Engine. So who cares about $650 graphics cards if the games are designed for last-gen hardware? The days of beefy graphics cards winning the war are over. Only good games can win this battle with the next-gen, and so far the consoles are creaming us. Valve is too busy making trading cards on Steam, no chance we will see Half-Life 3 anytime soon.SKaREO

So who made all these games ? :|

PC Gaming in June

PC Gaming in May (Not very updated. It results that we are getting much more games in May)

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Go ahead good sir. clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] Other day airport turned itself off and wouldn't turn back on. I had to reset the PRAM on startup to get it to turn back on. I'm just wondering what the hell I did that made my mac think it didn't have an "airport card" It just did it one day after coming out of sleep. 

Jonwh18

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I'm guessing its a bug. I've not seen it before on mine, how old is your MBP?clyde46

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

so graphics do matter? will you people make up your minds!

tormentos

okay, i would rather have great gameplay and great graphics

[QUOTE="SKaREO"]Nobody makes games for the PC anymore except Valve and they still use the 9 years old Source Engine. So who cares about $650 graphics cards if the games are designed for last-gen hardware? The days of beefy graphics cards winning the war are over. Only good games can win this battle with the next-gen, and so far the consoles are creaming us. Valve is too busy making trading cards on Steam, no chance we will see Half-Life 3 anytime soon.jhonMalcovich

So who made all these games ? :|

PC Gaming in June

PC Gaming in May (Not very updated. It results that we are getting much more games in May)

he's just a lame troll

[QUOTE="lostrib"]Uh huh, where is the PS4 in there?tormentos

so the 7950 is what 20% faster? more so at higher resolutions.  And your placement of the PS4 is based simpy on the TFLOPs of the GPU