Official Ninja Gaiden 2 Discussion Thread - KEEP IT ALL HERE! or face Suspension

God forbid. The only thing hype threads do is encourage fanboyism.

subrosian

It's what System Wars is all about. If there wasn't fanboys and auguring... Then there wouldn't be a forum like this.

It's the #1 forum on GS. So, yeah.

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.Dreams-Visions

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

i have to agree, eurogamer are always pretty spot on imo. this was a day 1 purchase for me untill i read this know im not sure. i dont mind difficult i have finshed sigma on hard but theirs a line when difficult crosses over to unfair and cheap.

"Where Ninja Gaiden balanced frustration with satisfaction, giving you a glow of accomplishment when you finally mastered a tricky section, NG2 breaks the equation on a regular basis. It spawns enemies on top of you - occasionally blinking them into existence right in front of your astonished face. It bombards you with unblockable, long-range attacks - and then restricts your movements, limiting your ability to dodge. It throws exploding kunai at you the second you walk through a door, from enemies you can't even see yet. It tantalises with the possibility of clever solutions or stealth (you are a bloody ninja, after all), allowing you to shoot out searchlights, and then instantly respawns the searchlights and bombards you with long-range rockets again." Eurogamer

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.Dreams-Visions

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

Hell, man, do you not remember towards the end of the first one, where you had to fight nearly every boss the game had back to back, before fighting that satan looking character?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I just went and read through a few more of the contradictory reviews and came to the conclusion that the difficulty (gee how surprising) is what seems to be the main factor in the low end scores, whereas IGN seemed to somewhat praise the difficulty as being one of the high marks of the game.

In conclusion, reviewers scoring this game in the 7's are just pissed because it kicked there asses, and they were on a deadline to get it done and reviewed on time. Which only added to any disdain that they may have had for the game. Whereas in contrast to reviews like Eurogamer and Gamesradar, IGN seemed to be more reasonable in terms of at least remembering that this is a sequel to NG....which was arguably one of the most frustrating games ever made.

So, docking points because it was not watered down difficulty wise for the casual crowd is laughable in my book. That tells me that it is just going to have all the more hardcore appeal, regardless of the scores. Hell, now I want the game even more.

ironcreed

Why would they punish it NOW and not also for NG, NGB and NGS?

Obviously for reasons that were cited in addition to the difficulty, such as lack-luster graphics, bad camera angle, ect. However, the main reason, in my opinion, is that it is a sequel that failed to improve upon the standard that the first one set in regards to the overall production. And in addition to the fact that it was obviously going to be measured against what the first one did, the fact that it did not make any noteworthy improvements on the 360 versus the first one on the Xbox is to be considered as well.

However, based on how some reviewers referred to it as going from frustrating to "impossible", I cannot help but surmise that the difficulty coupled together with a review deadline added to some frustration that was ultimately reflected in the reviews.

I don't know why. must be the Ninja Gaiden in me wanting to epically own this game.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.ironcreed

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

Hell, man, do you not remember towards the end of the first one, where you had to fight nearly every boss the game had back to back, before fighting that satan looking character?

...and I loved it. But post-victory damage? That just seems unnecessary. But whatever. Won't stop my fun. :D

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.ironcreed

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

Hell, man, do you not remember towards the end of the first one, where you had to fight nearly every boss the game had back to back, before fighting that satan looking character?

Awakened Alma on higher difficulties....

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ironcreed"]

I just went and read through a few more of the contradictory reviews and came to the conclusion that the difficulty (gee how surprising) is what seems to be the main factor in the low end scores, whereas IGN seemed to somewhat praise the difficulty as being one of the high marks of the game.

In conclusion, reviewers scoring this game in the 7's are just pissed because it kicked there asses, and they were on a deadline to get it done and reviewed on time. Which only added to any disdain that they may have had for the game. Whereas in contrast to reviews like Eurogamer and Gamesradar, IGN seemed to be more reasonable in terms of at least remembering that this is a sequel to NG....which was arguably one of the most frustrating games ever made.

So, docking points because it was not watered down difficulty wise for the casual crowd is laughable in my book. That tells me that it is just going to have all the more hardcore appeal, regardless of the scores. Hell, now I want the game even more.

Dreams-Visions

Why would they punish it NOW and not also for NG, NGB and NGS?

Obviously for reasons that were cited in addition to the difficulty, such as lack-luster graphics, bad camera angle, ect. However, the main reason, in my opinion, is that it is a sequel that failed to improve upon the standard that the first one set in regards to the overall production. And in addition to the fact that it was obviously going to be measured against what the first one did, the fact that it did not make any noteworthy improvements on the 360 versus the first one on the Xbox is to be considered as well.

However, based on how some reviewers referred to it as going from frustrating to "impossible", I cannot help but surmise that the difficulty coupled together with a review deadline added to some frustration that was ultimately reflected in the reviews.

I don't know why. must be the Ninja Gaiden in me wanting to epically own this game.

Exactly what I was essentially saying, man. Just think of how much longer it will last you, and how rewarding it will be once you finally beat it. That is how the first one was for me. God, I thought I would never get through it, but ultimately, with preserverence and luck, I finally conquered it and damn....what a rewarding feeling.

I don't really care. I grew to love Ninja Gaiden Black, and I didn't even think it was very hard when I mastered the control of Ryu. I'll get this regardless of the score. However, the most trustworthy site so far (IGN) gave the game a score that was nearly AAA, so I wouldn't be too surprised if it still got AAA here. I also think the Eurogamer review was way off, and most of the hate it got was because of the difficulty. The Eurogamer review and the IGN review directly contradict eachother about the cheapness of the game, and I trust IGN more.

And only the most ignorant fanboy will think Ninja Gaiden II getting AA is the end of the world. It should still be a game that they should play. If MGS4 gets AA I won't really care, I'll still play it if I get a chance, and I won't bash (even though MGS4 has been hyped like the second coming of christ.) I didn't bash when Haze flopped, even though that would be more justified because it got quite a low score.

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...LordoftheVacas

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

comeonthehoops

w00t

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.Zeliard9

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

Hell, man, do you not remember towards the end of the first one, where you had to fight nearly every boss the game had back to back, before fighting that satan looking character?

Awakened Alma on higher difficulties....

LOL, I never beat it on Master Ninja, normal was plenty hard enough for me. Kudos to all who beat that game on Master Ninja is all I have to say. Talk about some some ill skills.

Exactly what I was essentially saying, man. Just think of how much longer it will last you, and how rewarding it will be once you finally beat it. That is how the first one was for me. God, I thought I would never get through it, but ultimately, with preserverence and luck, I finally conquered it and damn....what a rewarding feeling.

ironcreed

[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

therealmcc0y

w00t

I know your finding humor in this, but it's definitely not worth getting moded over.

Back on Topic: Still think NG2 will get AAA here.

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/ninja-gaiden-ii/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/6663/2040/

OMG what a FLOP lololol, 9 is so lame :|

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

Lionheart08

w00t

I know your finding humor in this, but it's definitely not worth getting moded over.

Back on Topic: Still think NG2 will get AAA here.

Ive got 5 warnings today :o

Back on topic: I think NG2 will get AAA here

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...Lionheart08

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

another review

9\10

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/ninja-gaiden-ii/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/6663/2040/

OMG what a FLOP lololol, 9 is so lame :|

Nisim19

Talked about mixed reviews this gem has been getting.

[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

therealmcc0y

w00t

What happens if NG2 is still a AAA game here? :| This isn't exactly a HAZE like flop, so it can happen. Not saying it will happen, but it could. I definitely wouldn't be laughing and proclaiming it as a flop so early on, but whatever floats your boat.

[QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

BioShockOwnz

w00t

What happens if NG2 is still a AAA game here? :| This isn't exactly a HAZE like flop, so it can happen. Not saying it will happen, but it could. I definitely wouldn't be laughing and proclaiming it as a flop so early on, but whatever floats your boat.

I said I think it will get AAA here, few posts above

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]

Ok i've read 3 reviews so far and everyone of them says it has unbalanced difficulty. I think that's what is dragging the score down. Not the bad story. I'm still getting it and everyone who liked the first game should. This game still looks bloody awesome...i've been waiting for it for 4 years.

Dreams-Visions

Ninja Gaiden is known for it's instantaneous-hair-loss-developing-nervous-twitch-commited-for-therapy punishing difficulty. It's the game that set the bar for which all other games are measured in difficulty. Where most games have 3 difficulty settings, this one could benefit from FIVE grades :lol:

hmmm, was that a pun intended too (the highlighted part) ;)

And love your avatar/sig. I found a kindred spirit here :) Or is that mortal adversary? ;) :P

My name is Dreams-Visions. And I approve of these 2 posts.

IT DOESN'T MATT....

Had to stop myself lol :P

another review

9\10

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/ninja-gaiden-ii/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/6663/2040/

OMG what a FLOP lololol, 9 is so lame :|

Nisim19

Very polarizing reviews indeed. How's this sound?:

"Boy, does it deliver. Ninja Gaiden II is a hardcore gamer's dream, with refined controls that let you rip apart enemies in a number of ways. You have your weak attacks, strong attacks, projectile attacks, Ninpo attacks and the ability to block and weave out of harm's way. These combine to create a nice and fluid gameplay technique, as Ryu can mix up attacks to beat up his enemies.

There are refinements that make this system work better than before. First off, Ryu can now replenish energy with an auto-health regeneration system. It has its limits, with red space on your health bar unable to refill until you reach a crucial save point, scattered throughout the game. The rest, though, re-accumulates after a fight, leaving Ryu fresh for the next battle. This is a huge plus for the game, as it won't have you scrambling to find blue orbs or using a precious item to stay alive."

[QUOTE="Gamersince81"][QUOTE="ma7moud93"]

NG2 reviews so far

Gametap 9/10

Videogamer 9/10

IGN-8.7/10

CVG-8/10

Gamesradar 7/10

Eurogamer 7/10

Average=8.1

Lionheart08

Heavenly sword is 81% on gamerankings. I wonder if NG2 can beat HS on gamerankings??

A couple of xbox magazine scores should bring it up to like a 86%

Well dont no if this is a xbox magazine but they reviewed ninja gaiden 2.

XboxOnline: Ninja Gaiden 2 review 7.5

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-149561.aspx

Heres a good review from gamedaily.

GameDaily reviews Ninja Gaiden 2 and gives it 9/10

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/ninja-gaiden-ii/xbox-360/game-reviews/review/6663/2040/

[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]

Ok i've read 3 reviews so far and everyone of them says it has unbalanced difficulty. I think that's what is dragging the score down. Not the bad story. I'm still getting it and everyone who liked the first game should. This game still looks bloody awesome...i've been waiting for it for 4 years.

Zeliard9

I agree. In fact, difficulty spikes are welcome for me. I prefer my action games to have peaks and valleys of difficulty. Some areas you can just ease back and ace, while others have you tearing your hair out. Never knowing what to expect in your first play through makes the game all the more worthwhile in my book. Not something that I would dock points for, personally.

Seems to me like the health regen should make things quite a bit easier overall. Think of how many times in past NG games you had to waste a precious elixir because you were at 25% or so health and didn't want to risk a death. In this one, you'd regenerate a good chunk of that back, it seems.

Not only that, but save points in NG2 now refill your health and I think even your ninpo completely. So they definitely did some things to make it more accessible.

To counteract that, I think they upped the enemy count a good bit, which is perfectly fine by me. All of these seem like great additions. They reduce the frustration and keep you in the action more, though I can see the save point health refill being abused a little too easily.

harder difficulties have you regen less health at every battle on your way to a boss...in the first you could always farm essence to buy 10 elixirs and 5 great spirit exilirs. i think its debatable as to which system will be harder

When will the Gamespot score be out? I don't really care myself because I don't go by Gamespot reviews (or any reviews really) but I want it just so the Lems can admit it flopped or the cows can shut up. Last time I trusted a review I bought Assassin's Creed. Big mistake...comeonthehoops

Yh me too, I trusted GS 9 with AC... never again...

When will the Gamespot score be out? I don't really care myself because I don't go by Gamespot reviews (or any reviews really) but I want it just so the Lems can admit it flopped or the cows can shut up. Last time I trusted a review I bought Assassin's Creed. Big mistake...comeonthehoops

Lol yea assassins creed didn't deserve a 9 imo.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

I would not expect NG2 to be reviewed so highly here when reviewers seem so internally conflicted about the changes in the game - if the game were two steps forward and no steps back - maybe - but two forward, two back? I dunno...

subrosian

If not those fan groups (and I would say the majority of 360-haters are the PS3 fanboys) then WHO in your estimate comprises that lot?

The majority of 360 haters are PS3 fanboys - I meant that the majority of PS2 / PS3 owners are not PS3 fanboys or 360-haters, however - this has been the largest source of the 360-haters, and they just strike me as the most unfortunate fan group this generation - in terms of dissapointments, they've faced such a large number.

The composition of the haters?

70% PS3 fanboys, 15% PC diehards, 10% Nintendo Fanatics, 5% Jack Thompson.

-

Quite honestly, I haven't gotten what the fuss is about with NG2 - it's a game for fans of NG, not the only game on the platform, or even the summer gaming highlight. Quite frankly, I'm still working on GTA IV :P

Easy. Ninjas are COOL!!!! :P :P And Team Ninja has implemented very stylish ninja combat controls into a sexy looking game :)

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

therealmcc0y

w00t

What happens if NG2 is still a AAA game here? :| This isn't exactly a HAZE like flop, so it can happen. Not saying it will happen, but it could. I definitely wouldn't be laughing and proclaiming it as a flop so early on, but whatever floats your boat.

I said I think it will get AAA here, few posts above

Oh... that changes things. I saw your comments earlier in the topic when you were proclaiming flop, and remembered some of the things you have said about MGS4 recently, then looked at your sig, and got instantly annoyed at you haha. You're no longer my most hated fanboy haha :D

[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]When will the Gamespot score be out? I don't really care myself because I don't go by Gamespot reviews (or any reviews really) but I want it just so the Lems can admit it flopped or the cows can shut up. Last time I trusted a review I bought Assassin's Creed. Big mistake...therealmcc0y

Yh me too, I trusted GS 9 with AC... never again...

Well it is a love it or hate it kind of game, and I personally loved it to bits :)

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Eurogamer Review"]But one encounter, where you fight two bosses in a row with no intermediate save point, perfectly sums up the overall problem. Upon defeating the second boss (one of the game's cheapest, with lots of phases where you're expected to dodge bombardments of projectiles covering most of the play area), you get the final animation - sinking your scythe into its unprotected skull. For most of the game, this means the battle is over. In this specific battle, however, the boss explodes, and if you don't have enough health to survive it, or can't turn and block in time (which didn't seem to block all the damage anyway), you die and have to do the entire battle again.doobie1975

Okay WTF. That doesn't sound fun at all. NG can already be frustrating enough. No need in adding insult to the expected injury, IMO.

i have to agree, eurogamer are always pretty spot on imo. this was a day 1 purchase for me untill i read this know im not sure. i dont mind difficult i have finshed sigma on hard but theirs a line when difficult crosses over to unfair and cheap.

"Where Ninja Gaiden balanced frustration with satisfaction, giving you a glow of accomplishment when you finally mastered a tricky section, NG2 breaks the equation on a regular basis. It spawns enemies on top of you - occasionally blinking them into existence right in front of your astonished face. It bombards you with unblockable, long-range attacks - and then restricts your movements, limiting your ability to dodge. It throws exploding kunai at you the second you walk through a door, from enemies you can't even see yet. It tantalises with the possibility of clever solutions or stealth (you are a bloody ninja, after all), allowing you to shoot out searchlights, and then instantly respawns the searchlights and bombards you with long-range rockets again." Eurogamer

WOW Im a huge ninja gaiden fan, I beat ng, ngb, and ngs on hard. Even to me this dosent sound fun. There is a difference between "hard" and "cheap". I will be buying this anyway but Im not as excited anymore.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]

Ok i've read 3 reviews so far and everyone of them says it has unbalanced difficulty. I think that's what is dragging the score down. Not the bad story. I'm still getting it and everyone who liked the first game should. This game still looks bloody awesome...i've been waiting for it for 4 years.

Blackbond

Ninja Gaiden is known for it's instantaneous-hair-loss-developing-nervous-twitch-commited-for-therapy punishing difficulty. It's the game that set the bar for which all other games are measured in difficulty. Where most games have 3 difficulty settings, this one could benefit from FIVE grades :lol:

hmmm, was that a pun intended too (the highlighted part) ;)

And love your avatar/sig. I found a kindred spirit here :) Or is that mortal adversary? ;) :P

My name is Dreams-Visions. And I approve of these 2 posts.

IT DOESN'T MATT....

Had to stop myself lol :P

There is NEVER a reason to stop, BB :P

Ohhh I'm surprised, When was this game coming out again? I thought it will get something like 9.3 seems like no franchise is safe... I wonder if people would still use this score as ownage even though it hasn't been reviewed here... People did do that with Haze...sam280992

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...LordoftheVacas

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

Lost Odyssey in my opinion was a great game. I find it to be one of the first games I really loved on the 360 that was different. Yes the combat system couldve been better but the story was amazing and im downloading the new content which I believe if im not mistaken should be out or is it this friday?

[QUOTE="sam280992"]Ohhh I'm surprised, When was this game coming out again? I thought it will get something like 9.3 seems like no franchise is safe... I wonder if people would still use this score as ownage even though it hasn't been reviewed here... People did do that with Haze...LordoftheVacas

What do you mean crappy flawed discs? I haven't read the review yet so whats wrong? long loading times?

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="sam280992"]Ohhh I'm surprised, When was this game coming out again? I thought it will get something like 9.3 seems like no franchise is safe... I wonder if people would still use this score as ownage even though it hasn't been reviewed here... People did do that with Haze...sam280992

What do you mean crappy flawed discs? I haven't read the review yet so whats wrong? long loading times?

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="sam280992"]Ohhh I'm surprised, When was this game coming out again? I thought it will get something like 9.3 seems like no franchise is safe... I wonder if people would still use this score as ownage even though it hasn't been reviewed here... People did do that with Haze...sam280992

What do you mean crappy flawed discs? I haven't read the review yet so whats wrong? long loading times?

some frame rate issues i hear. I know this game is gonna be fantastic so i dont really care about the reviews, i just want my copy! :cry:

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...clintos59

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

Lost Odyssey in my opinion was a great game. I find it to be one of the first games I really loved on the 360 that was different. Yes the combat system couldve been better but the story was amazing and im downloading the new content which I believe if im not mistaken should be out or is it this friday?

i remmeber there was a poll on which game will have a higher score (ppl voted NG to have a higher score) and will be an better overall experience. LOL

fanboys are so blind. even in the preview NG does not have a chance against KOJIMA'S masterpiece

kojima alone > owns NG staff

FLOPTACULAR

[QUOTE="clintos59"][QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...LordoftheVacas

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

Lost Odyssey in my opinion was a great game. I find it to be one of the first games I really loved on the 360 that was different. Yes the combat system couldve been better but the story was amazing and im downloading the new content which I believe if im not mistaken should be out or is it this friday?

Yea there was really no slowdowns at all in the retail build.

i remmeber there was a poll on which game will have a higher score (ppl voted NG to have a higher score) and will be an better overall experience. LOL

fanboys are so blind. even in the preview NG does not have a chance against KOJIMA'S masterpiece

kojima alone > owns NG staff

virtuas

Don't lie fanboy :lol: MGS4 nearly had double the votes than NG2...

:lol:lol at Ninja Gaiden averaging A...Major Floppage :?f50p90

Averaging A where?

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"][QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="LordoftheVacas"]I think gamespot is holding back the game review to give a fair score, just to let you know :)...clintos59

Or Gamespot is just later like majority of time. :roll:

I have to say though, I'm honestly Surprised about the lower scores NG2 has gotten. I guess it proves that no franchise is a guaranteed AAA.

Lost Odyssey in my opinion was a great game. I find it to be one of the first games I really loved on the 360 that was different. Yes the combat system couldve been better but the story was amazing and im downloading the new content which I believe if im not mistaken should be out or is it this friday?

LO was amaizng imo.

:lol:lol at Ninja Gaiden averaging A...Major Floppage :?f50p90

Its averaging AA what are you talking about.