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[QUOTE="reach3"] anyone with 20/20 vision easily sees gears has better technical graphics, leap years ahead. That game looks like wii but with loads of ram for more models. doesnt matter when characters look like wii graphics.

doesn't look sharp or crisp though.
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#753 jokeisgames2012
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if two cars have have same size piston and one has longer stroke, the shorter stroke one will take off faster
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#754 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"]there were 302 1969 camaros rated at 290 horse but they were actually pushing 500+ hpjokeisgames2012

302 in^3 = 4.94889 L, the 4.58L @ 560 hp is 122hp/L, they'd need more than 600hp to be equal liter for liter.

And that's not unleaded anyway (leaded allows for higher compression ratio).

yes it is the 1969 camaro won the trans am series with the 302.

No, in the 60's we used leaded fuel, that allows for a higher compression ratio, and more hp/L because of it, even with that advantage it's not able to beat the 458's engine in hp/L and I'm also willing to put money on the 302 being a heavier engine to begin with.
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#755 jokeisgames2012
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

302 in^3 = 4.94889 L, the 4.58L @ 560 hp is 122hp/L, they'd need more than 600hp to be equal liter for liter.

And that's not unleaded anyway (leaded allows for higher compression ratio).

yes it is the 1969 camaro won the trans am series with the 302.

No, in the 60's we used leaded fuel, that allows for a higher compression ratio, and more hp/L because of it, even with that advantage it's not able to beat the 458's engine in hp/L and I'm also willing to put money on the 302 being a heavier engine to begin with.

italian cars are heavier.
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#756 jokeisgames2012
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you never see foreign top fuel drag cars because they suck compared to american.
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#757 jokeisgames2012
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everything in america is produced outside of america because u can pay people less money, but the quality is also crappier
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#758 reach3
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] anyone with 20/20 vision easily sees gears has better technical graphics, leap years ahead. That game looks like wii but with loads of ram for more models. doesnt matter when characters look like wii graphics.

doesn't look sharp or crisp though.

1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?
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#759 Inconsistancy
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italian cars are heavier.jokeisgames2012

The 1969 Camaro weighed 3800lbs, an Italia weighs 3200.

Also the Ferrari F40 (1987--1992) was 1,100 kg (2,400 lb), 2.9 L 497hp (turbo)

you never see foreign top fuel drag cars because they suck compared to american.jokeisgames2012

No, the rest of the world just doesn't enjoy crap turning left all day, and seeing cars only drive in a strait line.

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#760 jokeisgames2012
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] No, in the 60's we used leaded fuel, that allows for a higher compression ratio, and more hp/L because of it, even with that advantage it's not able to beat the 458's engine in hp/L and I'm also willing to put money on the 302 being a heavier engine to begin with.

italian cars are heavier.

The 1969 Camaro weighed 3800lbs, an Italia weighs 3200.

Also the Ferrari F40 (1987--1992) was 1,100 kg (2,400 lb), 2.9 L 497hp (turbo)

not drag cars or trans am lol no backseats and tubed out
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#762 jokeisgames2012
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big bore and short stroke=best for fast take off
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(3.2 in) and a stroke of 56.6 mm (2.23 in Bugatti EB LOL=crap
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4.25" and a standard stoke of 3.75 426 hemi BIGGER PISTON longer stroke, but bigger piston makes up for longer stroke
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#765 jokeisgames2012
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small piston and longer stroke=really horrible
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chevy 305 engine=same size piston as 350 but the stroke is longer. 350 will smoke 305s ass takes off faster
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not drag cars or trans am lol no backseats and tubed outjokeisgames2012

Drag cars generally aren't street legal, and even the lesser ones that are street legal aren't all that brilliant on the road. In a real race, on a proper race track (that's not all left turns or a strait line) those cars are utterly worthless and would probably have trouble keeping up with a Honda Civic.

But if you're talking about race only cars and weight, a F1 weighs 640kb (1410lbs) and has 800+hp of course they're biased towards the ability to turn and are heavily regulated and much less powerful than they could be if they were allowed to go all out.

find me bore and stroke for your crappy car u bragging about and 426 hemi will still beat it jokeisgames2012

Bore × Stroke
4.58L italia: 94 × 81 mm
426 hemi:108.0 x 95.3 mm

What a useless comparison, you really can't gather anything about a cars performance from that alone.

Besides that the 458's a smaller engine, and the ratio is about the same.

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[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"]not drag cars or trans am lol no backseats and tubed outInconsistancy


Drag cars generally aren't street legal, and even the lesser ones that are street legal aren't all that brilliant on the road. In a real race, on a proper race track (that's not all left turns or a strait line) those cars are utterly worthless and would probably have trouble keeping up with a Honda Civic.

But if you're talking about race only cars and weight, a F1 weighs 640kb (1410lbs) and has 800+hp of course they're biased towards the ability to turn and are heavily regulated and much less powerful than they could be if they were allowed to go all out.

find me bore and stroke for your crappy car u bragging about and 426 hemi will still beat it jokeisgames2012

Bore × Stroke
4.58L italia: 94 × 81 mm
426 hemi:108.0 mm x 95.3 mm

What a useless comparison, you really can't gather anything about a cars performance from that alone.

smaller piston=sh1t period
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if budati had bigger bore or same size and shorter stroke than the hemi lol it would kill it
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#771 jokeisgames2012
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but the current set up isnt gonna take a hemi lol sorry dude
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I lol'd.

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video cards can suck a peen. the more complex something is the most chance u have it breaking lol like new cars all these electronics and computers are harder to work on than muscle cars. u just want something simplejokeisgames2012
pc development has so much overhead because of all the goddamn video card & drivers jokeisgames2012
Sure, you can have your "boat anchor" like classic Amiga hardware.
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] anyone with 20/20 vision easily sees gears has better technical graphics, leap years ahead. That game looks like wii but with loads of ram for more models. doesnt matter when characters look like wii graphics.

doesn't look sharp or crisp though.

1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?

Who the hell plays at 720p on PC? I don't think they ever made a whole lot of monitors with native 1280x720.. Now you're making **** up. I don't know anyone who played lower then 1600x900 right now. Here's one of the pics in native res:
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#775 Inconsistancy
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if budati had bigger bore or same size and shorter stroke than the hemi lol it would kill it jokeisgames2012

This comparison is so worthless...

108.0 x 95.3 mm V8 (2713mm^2 (total surface area of pistons)) .872L / piston, 6.98L total (70hp/L?)
vs
86 x 86mm W16 (4320mm^2) .499L / piston, 7.9L total (126hp/L)

The Bugatti 'has' the shorter stroke, and its bore equates to nearly double the total surface area (due to having 2x the pistons)

So yea, it does kill it.

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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] doesn't look sharp or crisp though.Jebus213
1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?

Who the hell plays at 720p on PC?

Hate to break it to you, all pc gamers odnt have $2000 pcs

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU bugati has 4 turbos only pushing 980 hp with a v16 lol. lol **** top fuel dragsters v8s supercharged pushing 8,000 hp lmao
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] 1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?reach3

Who the hell plays at 720p on PC?

Hate to break it to you, all pc gamers odnt have $2000 pcs

I have around an 800$ PC. 1080p monitors aren't that expensive. I got one for less then 1/2 the price of my 32 inch 720p TV.... Good know you don't know ANYTHING about PC.
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[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"]if budati had bigger bore or same size and shorter stroke than the hemi lol it would kill it Inconsistancy

This comparison is so worthless...

108.0 x 95.3 mm V8 (2713mm^2 (total surface area of pistons)) .872L / piston, 6.98L total (70hp/L?)
vs
86 x 86mm W16 (4320mm^2) .499L / piston, 7.9L total (126hp/L)

The Bugatti 'has' the shorter stroke, and its bore equates to nearly double the total surface area (due to having 2x the pistons)

So yea, it does kill it.

nope bigger piston/bore is more important than stroke.
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] doesn't look sharp or crisp though.

1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?

Who the hell plays at 720p on PC? I don't think they ever made a whole lot of monitors with native 1280x720.. Now you're making **** up. I don't know anyone who played lower then 1600x900 right now. Here's one of the pics in native res:

The majority do dont play over 720p. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean anything. and please quit posting screens of that garbage game. Those character models are terrible
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dont matter if its street legal or not. Where's these european cars pushing 8 thousand horsepower like american v8s?
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#782 Inconsistancy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU

bugati has 4 turbos only pushing 980 hp with a v16 lol.

lol **** top fuel dragsters v8s supercharged pushing 8,000 hp lmaojokeisgames2012


And top fuel cars aren't street legal, reliable, efficient, comfortable... Also the fuel is completely different, race fuel allows for a much higher compression ratio, so you can get more fuel and air into the same space and burn it effectively.

You can't compare street cars to race cars, especially not top fuel drag racers, they can't even turn.

dont matter if its street legal or not.

Where's these european cars pushing 8 thousand horsepower like american v8s?jokeisgames2012

Because that's apples to oranges, Europe doesn't like watching cars go in a strait line or turning left all day.

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[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU

bugati has 4 turbos only pushing 980 hp with a v16 lol.

lol **** top fuel dragsters v8s supercharged pushing 8,000 hp lmaoInconsistancy


And top fuel cars aren't street legal, reliable, efficient, comfortable... Also the fuel is completely different, race fuel allows for a much higher compression ratio, so you can get more fuel and air into the same space and burn it effectively.

You can't compare street cars to race cars, especially not top fuel drag racers, they can't even turn.

dont matter if its street legal or not.

Where's these european cars pushing 8 thousand horsepower like american v8s?jokeisgames2012

Because that's apples to oranges, Europe doesn't like watching cars go in a strait line or turning left all day.

find me any european drag car pushing 8000 hp LOL
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europeans dont drag because they cant build 8000 hp drag cars if they could they would.
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find me any european drag car pushing 8000 hp LOLjokeisgames2012

Find me a jet engine with more than 75,000lbs of thrust (Rolls Royce Trent 1000)

72,300 (General Electric GEnx-1B70)

Guess Europe wins

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] 1) irrelevant, technical graphics is far better 2) is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?reach3

Who the hell plays at 720p on PC?

Hate to break it to you, all pc gamers odnt have $2000 pcs

$2000?! I got a laptop FOUR YEARS ago that runs games at 1440x900 for only $1200.... You have no idea what you are talking about.

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[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

Because that's apples to oranges, Europe doesn't like watching cars go in a strait line or turning left all day.

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find me any european drag car pushing 8000 hp LOL

Find me a jet engine with more than 75,000lbs of thrust (Rolls Royce Trent 1000)

72,300 (General Electric GEnx-1B70)

Guess Europe wins

american has fastest airplane in the world lol cough jet engine cough
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the reason why america wins because so many different cultures built this country.
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[QUOTE="reach3"] The majority do dont play over 720p. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean anything. and please quit posting screens of that garbage game. Those character models are terrible

You got proof? On Steam only 7% of people have a resolution of 720p and lower.... 1920x1080- 25.05% 1680 x1050- 9.99% 1440 x 900- 7.58% 1366 x 768- 17.66% 1280 x1024-10.58% 70.86% from those 5 resolutions alone. You definitely don't know anything about PC.
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"] find me any european drag car pushing 8000 hp LOLjokeisgames2012

Find me a jet engine with more than 75,000lbs of thrust (Rolls Royce Trent 1000)

72,300 (General Electric GEnx-1B70)

Guess Europe wins

american has fastest airplane in the world lol cough jet engine cough

Pratt & Whitney J58-P4 38000 lbf of thrust (SR-71) vs the Trent 1000's 75k.

Who made the world's fastest commercial Jet? Britian's Concord.

RX J0822-4300 3 million mph:

Milky Way: 1

America: 0

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[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

Find me a jet engine with more than 75,000lbs of thrust (Rolls Royce Trent 1000)

72,300 (General Electric GEnx-1B70)

Guess Europe wins

Inconsistancy

american has fastest airplane in the world lol cough jet engine cough

Pratt & Whitney J58-P4 38000 lbf of thrust (SR-71) vs the Trent 1000's 75k.

Who made the world's fastest commercial Jet? Britian's Concord.

Who built fastest military fighter plane? america thats matters more we got airplane that can fly into space dude but would fall apart on entry into earths atmosphere lol.
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is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?reach3

720p is no more crisp than 1024x768. I think the latter is technically more crisp because of its higher vertical res. The main advantage of 720p is more viewing space left and right.

The 4:3 resolutions: 1280x1024 @ 85hz or better was commonplace among PC gamers (prior to widescreen) with CRT screen sizes from 17" to 19" followed by 21" CRTs at 1600x1200 @ 85hz.

PC LCD monitors started out with 4:3 aspect ratio (1280x1024*, 1600x1200) and quickly moved to 16:10 and 16:9 aspect ratios. I recall 17" LCDs at a res of 1366x768 and 19" LCDs at 1440x900. The 19" LCDs at 1440x900 and 1600x900 quickly became the most common even as 20" and above PC monitors came in at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080.

PC monitors pretty much skipped 720p.

*1280x1024 isn't 4:3. I still wonder how the heck this oddball res got mixed in with real 4:3 resolutions.

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] The majority do dont play over 720p. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean anything. and please quit posting screens of that garbage game. Those character models are terrible

You got proof? On Steam only 7% of people have a resolution of 720p and lower.... 1920x1080- 25.05% 1680 x1050- 9.99% 1440 x 900- 7.58% 1366 x 768- 17.66% 1280 x1024-10.58%

1) the only people who answer steam questions are the try hards with higher end setups. and it still got 20% the vote. If all the mainstream gamers answered too, it would be over 50% 2) 1366 x 768 is basically close to 720p. and that is at about 20%
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america first to break the sound barrier blackbird. That can fly into space but it's couldnt take the entry back into earths atmosphere.
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[QUOTE="reach3"] is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?jun_aka_pekto

720p is no more crisp than 1024x768. I think the latter is technically more crisp because of its higher vertical res. The main advantage of 720p is more viewing space left and right.

The 4:3 resolutions: 1280x1024 @ 85hz or better was commonplace among PC gamers (prior to widescreen) with CRT screen sizes from 17" to 19" followed by 21" CRTs at 1600x1200 @ 85hz.

PC LCD monitors started out with 4:3 aspect ratio (1280x1024, 1600x1200) and quickly moved to 16:10 and 16:9 aspect ratios. I recall 17" LCDs at a res of 1366x768 and 19" LCDs at 1440x900. The 19" LCDs at 1440x900 and 1600x900 quickly became the most common even as 20" and above PC monitors came in at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080.

PC monitors pretty much skipped 720p.

My fvcking CRT monitor did higher then 720p.
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#796 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="jokeisgames2012"] american has fastest airplane in the world lol cough jet engine cough jokeisgames2012

Pratt & Whitney J58-P4 38000 lbf of thrust (SR-71) vs the Trent 1000's 75k.

Who made the world's fastest commercial Jet? Britian's Concord.

Who built fastest military fighter plane? america thats matters more we got airplane that can fly into space dude but would fall apart on entry into earths atmosphere lol.

I thought the USSR had the fastest jet fighter.

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america first to break the sound barrier blackbird. That can fly into space but it's couldnt take the entry back into earths atmosphere.jokeisgames2012

dont you have anything better to do than spam this thread with unrelated stuff?

The SR-71 came long after the Bell X1, which was the first to break the sound barrier. lol.

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#798 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="reach3"] The majority do dont play over 720p. Just because you dont know them doesnt mean anything. and please quit posting screens of that garbage game. Those character models are terrible

You got proof? On Steam only 7% of people have a resolution of 720p and lower.... 1920x1080- 25.05% 1680 x1050- 9.99% 1440 x 900- 7.58% 1366 x 768- 17.66% 1280 x1024-10.58%

1) the only people who answer steam questions are the try hards with higher end setups. and it still got 20% the vote. If all the mainstream gamers answered too, it would be over 50% 2) 1366 x 768 is basically close to 720p. and that is at about 20%

1. That's really stupid assumption. Realistically a lot of mainstream would 1028x1024. 2. 1366x768=/=720p regardless what you think. It's higher then 720p, that's fact.
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#799 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="reach3"] is native 720p, still very crisp. Is still the resolution that 50% of pc gamers play at today, being a hypcrit as we?Jebus213

720p is no more crisp than 1024x768. I think the latter is technically more crisp because of its higher vertical res. The main advantage of 720p is more viewing space left and right.

The 4:3 resolutions: 1280x1024 @ 85hz or better was commonplace among PC gamers (prior to widescreen) with CRT screen sizes from 17" to 19" followed by 21" CRTs at 1600x1200 @ 85hz.

PC LCD monitors started out with 4:3 aspect ratio (1280x1024, 1600x1200) and quickly moved to 16:10 and 16:9 aspect ratios. I recall 17" LCDs at a res of 1366x768 and 19" LCDs at 1440x900. The 19" LCDs at 1440x900 and 1600x900 quickly became the most common even as 20" and above PC monitors came in at 1680x1050 and 1920x1080.

PC monitors pretty much skipped 720p.

My fvcking CRT monitor did higher then 720p.

That's what I mean. I don't recall any widescreen PC monitors using 720p. The lowest I've seen was 1366x768 on a little 14"(?) widescreen monitor. 720p was mostly used by consumer TVs and consoles. For me, I only became aware of 720p once I hooked up my PC to my 720p TV.

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america first to break the sound barrier blackbird. That can fly into space but it's couldnt take the entry back into earths atmosphere.jokeisgames2012

"Technically the speed of sound had probably been broken before that by several Second World War aircraft. Some British and American fighters may have unintentionally exceeded the speed of sound in an evasive dive and there are unconfirmed reports that the German Me 262 jet fighter managed to break the sound barrier." -http://www.rogerdarlington.me.uk/Mach.html

But, the first 'Jet' confirmed, I believe was the Canadian F-86E Sabre. The SR-71 "blackbird" was not the first jet, or even aircraft to break the sound barrier. The Bell X-1 was the first(confirmed) to break it.