your claims are meaninless without proof.playharderfoolUm, the developer itself said it'd be too chaotic if the battles were just in one area with all 256 players. That's why the game is fought in smaller battles within the map.
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your claims are meaninless without proof.playharderfoolUm, the developer itself said it'd be too chaotic if the battles were just in one area with all 256 players. That's why the game is fought in smaller battles within the map.
[QUOTE="nitsud_19"][QUOTE="delta3074"]cows should be grateful then, if Halo reach was a a linear/corridor game it would probably blow UC2 and killzone 2 out of the water in graphics, just as well we are not all graphics ****** here on GS, they can keep there graphics kings, this game is going to be the gameplay king, and REACH has a quality that no PS3 game ever has,staying power, i know which game the most people will still be playing online 3 years from now, and it won't be MAG.delta3074
I guess that can contribute to the fact that the PS3 rolls out great exclusive after great exclusive to combat this clinging effect... i mean staying power.
and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thought I think you missed his point. For instance, referring to the NBC drama. Jay Leno didn't want the Prime time slot because that's when all the other networks put on their best shows, thus making it less likely that people will watch his. On the other hand, a later time slot has nothing else on, so people are more likely to watch his show. Same applies for games. A system with multiple great exclusives has people divided over various games because they are all of spectacular quality while a system with 1 truly shining exclusive will have everyone cling to that game, because it's the only game worth playing. Note that I'm not stating that X360 only has 1 good exclusive, I'm just clarifying.[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Old but still look nice.urdead18Really? For a game coming out in 2010 that's claiming to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 it really looks disapointing, even to a hardcore lemming. Looks as good as KZ2 to me. GoW2 looked as good as KZ2. I own both games. Graphics have been completely improved over Halo 3. If you have the GI magazine, they actually show the differences between Reach and Halo 3. A lot more detail and better lighting.
[QUOTE="playharderfool"]your claims are meaninless without proof.Stevo_the_gamerUm, the developer itself said it'd be too chaotic if the battles were just in one area with all 256 players. That's why the game is fought in smaller battles within the map. I think the game is designed like Resistance 2 Skirmish. The game's design is meant to separate people into smaller battles, but many times you would see everyone just go for the same objective and have it be a cluster-"muck". The way Mag is designed is so people complete varying objectives in different areas to avoid bottlenecks, but there is nowhere where it states that, were people to disregard the game design, they're physically unable occupy the same area.
[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Old but still look nice.XanderZaneReally? For a game coming out in 2010 that's claiming to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 it really looks disapointing, even to a hardcore lemming. Looks as good as KZ2 to me. GoW2 looked as good as KZ2. I own both games. Graphics have been completely improved over Halo 3. If you have the GI magazine, they actually show the differences between Reach and Halo 3. A lot more detail and better lighting. No one is debating that it's an improvement, most people are just saying it isn't all it was hyped up to be (console graphics king) and I hope by GoW2 you mean Gears of War 2 :P
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It's an estimation. The gameplay would get too chaoticif the game would focus on all 256 players battling in one area. That's just common sense, really. The game is fought in smaller battles all over the map in squads and platoons with officers leading them. I've played the beta, I know how it works. They can't change that philosophy. That's the main foundation the game was built around.
I haven't played either of those so I can't comment, but those do sound like better examples than MAG.
MangaJ
:| The same thing was said about Resistance 2, your claims are meaninless without proof. Just another baseless bash you pulled from your you know where as damage control in responce to Halo Reach's unimpressive showing.
The developers never said, " It's 256 players but we are only going to limit it to 35 players at a time" :lol: the things people say to try to justify their praise for something else, it's amazing
Why are you still even in this thread? You're just coming off as desparate now.
Why are you in this thread? You sure don't have anything to contribute.
looks much better! Graphics king ehh who cares but it's a big improvement and that's all that matters to me and it has Halo gameplay which is always great......can't wait for this
[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nitsud_19"]I guess that can contribute to the fact that the PS3 rolls out great exclusive after great exclusive to combat this clinging effect... i mean staying power.II_Seraphim_IIand they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thought I think you missed his point. For instance, referring to the NBC drama. Jay Leno didn't want the Prime time slot because that's when all the other networks put on their best shows, thus making it less likely that people will watch his. On the other hand, a later time slot has nothing else on, so people are more likely to watch his show. Same applies for games. A system with multiple great exclusives has people divided over various games because they are all of spectacular quality while a system with 1 truly shining exclusive will have everyone cling to that game, because it's the only game worth playing. Note that I'm not stating that X360 only has 1 good exclusive, I'm just clarifying.i see your point, but the 360 does have multiple good exclusives, according to GS it has anyway, and it still has more exclusives, so his point is moot really,people should stop assuming that people only flock to halo because there is nothing else worth playing on the 360, they should accept the fact that people flock to Halo because they enjoy playing it,not through a lack of options
[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Old but still look nice.XanderZaneReally? For a game coming out in 2010 that's claiming to be as graphically impressive as Killzone 2 it really looks disapointing, even to a hardcore lemming. Looks as good as KZ2 to me. GoW2 looked as good as KZ2. I own both games. Graphics have been completely improved over Halo 3. If you have the GI magazine, they actually show the differences between Reach and Halo 3. A lot more detail and better lighting. Not to be nitpicky but.. how can you own Killzone 2 when yer sig says "PS3 next year"? or did you buy it for the lulz?
You know that enviroment shadows are baked on textures? Only characters and certain objects cast real time shadows, no AO (even baked, not o mention SSAO).
sayonara89
Lots of games do that this gen but going by the in engine trailer it doesnt happen in this game. Im sure every object cast real time shadows
[QUOTE="nitsud_19"][QUOTE="delta3074"]cows should be grateful then, if Halo reach was a a linear/corridor game it would probably blow UC2 and killzone 2 out of the water in graphics, just as well we are not all graphics ****** here on GS, they can keep there graphics kings, this game is going to be the gameplay king, and REACH has a quality that no PS3 game ever has,staying power, i know which game the most people will still be playing online 3 years from now, and it won't be MAG.delta3074
I guess that can contribute to the fact that the PS3 rolls out great exclusive after great exclusive to combat this clinging effect... i mean staying power.
and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thoughtAhh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thought[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nitsud_19"]
I guess that can contribute to the fact that the PS3 rolls out great exclusive after great exclusive to combat this clinging effect... i mean staying power.
nitsud_19
Ahh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
no, but GS scores do, and, apart from halo wars,halo games have scored just as high as any PS3 exclusives bar MGS 4, you can quit with the line that halo games are low quality but sell a lot, because with halo you get both quality and quantity, so in the case of halo sales=quality[QUOTE="MangaJ"]
[QUOTE="playharderfool"]
:| The same thing was said about Resistance 2, your claims are meaninless without proof. Just another baseless bash you pulled from your you know where as damage control in responce to Halo Reach's unimpressive showing.
The developers never said, " It's 256 players but we are only going to limit it to 35 players at a time" :lol: the things people say to try to justify their praise for something else, it's amazing
HerzogJan
Why are you still even in this thread? You're just coming off as desparate now.
Why are you in this thread? You sure don't have anything to contribute.
Well, compared to the invaluable knowledge, wisdom, and glowing light of divine revelation that you're beaming out into this thread via your carefully chosen and incalulably powerful prose, you're right in saying that a lowly individual such as myself has nothing to contribute. But I feel that it's important for an observer such as myself to occassionaly step in to politely tell somebody when their argument has obviously run out of steam to save them further hours of furious posting to try and convince other people that their favorite gaming system should be everybody's favorite gaming system. Thank you, though, for your mighty insight. I shall cherish it always.
[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nitsud_19"]
I guess that can contribute to the fact that the PS3 rolls out great exclusive after great exclusive to combat this clinging effect... i mean staying power.
and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thoughtAhh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
Heh yeah if that was the case then Wii Sports and WiiFit are the best thing that happend gaming since... Super Mario Bros.[QUOTE="nitsud_19"][QUOTE="delta3074"]and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thoughtdelta3074
Ahh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
no, but GS scores do, and, apart from halo wars,halo games have scored just as high as any PS3 exclusives bar MGS 4, you can quit with the line that halo games are low quality but sell a lot, because with halo you get both quality and quantity, so in the case of halo sales=qualityYou know, I think that's an interesting and ironic fact. I actually found Halo Wars to be the most addictively awesome of all the Halo games so far. Of course, I understand that I'm in the total minority. It would be nice though to see Halo Wars getting some love too.
no, but GS scores do, and, apart from halo wars,halo games have scored just as high as any PS3 exclusives bar MGS 4, you can quit with the line that halo games are low quality but sell a lot, because with halo you get both quality and quantity, so in the case of halo sales=quality[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nitsud_19"]
Ahh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
MangaJ
You know, I think that's an interesting and ironic fact. I actually found Halo Wars to be the most addictively awesome of all the Halo games so far. Of course, I understand that I'm in the total minority. It would be nice though to see Halo Wars getting some love too.
that puts us both in the minority then, i thoroughly enjoyed halo wars, it was a nice change, same story, different perspective and gameplay[QUOTE="nitsud_19"][QUOTE="delta3074"]and they still can't get the same amount of people to buy there game's, all these great exclusives and they still can't bring Halo down,says a lot when a game with inferior graphics can outsell every exclusive in the Ps3's inventory,lol,syas even more when an expansion pack with the same graphics outsells every Ps3 exclusive as well, maybe ther IS more to games than just pretty graphics,just a thoughtdelta3074
Ahh SW and lemmings especially, will never understand the fact that sales don't equal quality.
no, but GS scores do, and, apart from halo wars,halo games have scored just as high as any PS3 exclusives bar MGS 4, you can quit with the line that halo games are low quality but sell a lot, because with halo you get both quality and quantity, so in the case of halo sales=quality It is his opinion, some people do not like MGS4 and it got 10, doesn't mean they are wrong.[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="almighty151986"]Are they still rendering at 600p? :lol: The worlds most powerful console and it can't even run its own exclusive games at bare min of native 720p :lol: Oh X-box and lemmings make me laugh...almighty151986We don't know if the game is running at 600p, but it seems as if you've already convinced yourself that it is. Btw, didn't MGS4 run below 720p? I don't know and don't care about PS3 and it's games, Also Halo ODST also ran at 600p just like Halo 3 did so I'm willing to make a large bet that Reach will as well http://www.gameswire.net/news/halo-3-odst-not-720p-admits-bungie_85.html
Maybe because they used the same engine and didn't bother tweaking the game for a new resolution?
so u really think those screens look better then this?lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
Espada12
[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="almighty151986"]Are they still rendering at 600p? :lol: The worlds most powerful console and it can't even run its own exclusive games at bare min of native 720p :lol: Oh X-box and lemmings make me laugh...almighty151986We don't know if the game is running at 600p, but it seems as if you've already convinced yourself that it is. Btw, didn't MGS4 run below 720p? I don't know and don't care about PS3 and it's games, Also Halo ODST also ran at 600p just like Halo 3 did so I'm willing to make a large bet that Reach will as well http://www.gameswire.net/news/halo-3-odst-not-720p-admits-bungie_85.html Fair enough, I'd explain why what you're saying is laughable but other people have beaten me to it.
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
Edit: I completely disagree with the UC2 statement, but whats there to remember about Halo 3?
so u really think those screens look better then this?[QUOTE="Espada12"]
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
stereointegrity
Yes, because I don't like the art direction of uncharted 2. Cows can understand, it's the same reason they say UC2 looks better than crysis.
so u really think those screens look better then this? So you post a dev shot with more FSAA then PS3 could even dream of doing?[QUOTE="Espada12"]
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
stereointegrity
so u really think those screens look better then this?[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
Espada12
Yes, because I don't like the art direction of uncharted 2. Cows can understand, it's the same reason they say UC2 looks better than crysis.
so this is the art direction u like that is better looking then U2also i dont get how u said "remember Halo 3"...yes we remember how the beta looked just like the game and the Jaggie fest it was...yes it has some of the best HDR around but thats where it ended
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]so u really think those screens look better then this? So you post a dev shot with more FSAA then PS3 could even dream of doing? It's not like we'll get any honest Reach screens for a long time.[QUOTE="Espada12"]
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
almighty151986
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
lol @ people saying the game doesn't look good they look better than UC 2 imo, the visuals are only going to get better, remember halo 3?
so u really think those screens look better then this? So you post a dev shot with more FSAA then PS3 could even dream of doing? Yeah because those Reach shots aren't bullshots either :roll:[QUOTE="almighty151986"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]so u really think those screens look better then this?So you post a dev shot with more FSAA then PS3 could even dream of doing? It's not like we'll get any honest Reach screens for a long time. even the ones the TC posted are Bullshotsinertk
also i dont get how u said "remember Halo 3"...yes we remember how the beta looked just like the game and the Jaggie fest it was...yes it has some of the best HDR around but thats where it ended
stereointegrity
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
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also i dont get how u said "remember Halo 3"...yes we remember how the beta looked just like the game and the Jaggie fest it was...yes it has some of the best HDR around but thats where it ended
Espada12
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
this if u like gritty u should loved KZ2's look because it has better graphics and is Gritty?[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]
also i dont get how u said "remember Halo 3"...yes we remember how the beta looked just like the game and the Jaggie fest it was...yes it has some of the best HDR around but thats where it ended
stereointegrity
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
this if u like gritty u should loved KZ2's look because it has better graphics and is Gritty? uphill battle dude....[QUOTE="Espada12"]
[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]
also i dont get how u said "remember Halo 3"...yes we remember how the beta looked just like the game and the Jaggie fest it was...yes it has some of the best HDR around but thats where it ended
stereointegrity
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
this if u like gritty u should loved KZ2's look because it has better graphics and is Gritty?Yes I do like KZ2's look, it's the reason I sold uncharted 2 but still have KZ2, what does that have to do with anything though?
Something about the environment in these reach screens is really underwhelming. In fact, I'm gonna take a leap of faith here and claim that Halo 3's environments were far more appealing than what I'm seeing in these screens.II_Seraphim_IIYou're right- character models and lighting are really impressive....the environment is just meh.
this if u like gritty u should loved KZ2's look because it has better graphics and is Gritty?[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]
[QUOTE="Espada12"]
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
Espada12
Yes I do like KZ2's look, it's the reason I sold uncharted 2 but still have KZ2, what does that have to do with anything though?
i was getting a feel for what art style u liked thats all....[QUOTE="stereointegrity"]this if u like gritty u should loved KZ2's look because it has better graphics and is Gritty? uphill battle dude....to the top we go then! :P[QUOTE="Espada12"]
Because halo 3 look bad in the beta and came out looking better. Also
Those > uncharted 2's art direction, yes I prefer this look, the gritty look > all in shooters.
II_Seraphim_II
[QUOTE="HerzogJan"]
[QUOTE="MangaJ"]
Why are you still even in this thread? You're just coming off as desparate now.
MangaJ
Why are you in this thread? You sure don't have anything to contribute.
Well, compared to the invaluable knowledge, wisdom, and glowing light of divine revelation that you're beaming out into this thread via your carefully chosen and incalulably powerful prose, you're right in saying that a lowly individual such as myself has nothing to contribute. But I feel that it's important for an observer such as myself to occassionaly step in to politely tell somebody when their argument has obviously run out of steam to save them further hours of furious posting to try and convince other people that their favorite gaming system should be everybody's favorite gaming system. Thank you, though, for your mighty insight. I shall cherish it always.
The posts you are criticising are contributing more than your jibberish, talking about 'desperate'.
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