The Truth About Hepler and Bioware.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Oh wait, they made a game recnetly that is 94-96 on Metacritic, try againtexasgoldrush

wat

dragon age 2--79

TORtanic--85

BIODRONES FAIL MISERABLY

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]Seriously, Hepler should fight back..... Biohaters are some of the dumbest internet posters ever....and the verbal assaults on her prove it. She's got a job working for one of the most acclaimed development studios, and the haters are the ones just siting on their ass. I bet the haters can't even write a game, let alone criticize it effectively. Hell, they and the DAO diehards are so stupid, they don't even realize that the writing team was the same in both games or that David Gaider, the lead writer of DAO and DAII, was responisble for one of the most cherished Bioware characters. And really, blaming the writers for DAII's mediocre showing is idiotic. Lets see how well you do when you are not allowed to finish your story because of an unrealitic deadline. its the same story as with Ultima iX, or KOTOR II. But oh wait, KOTOR II gets a pass because they are not from Bioware...loltexasgoldrush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbbGX4Wz0Y

my dog could write better than this crap

writing wise? Hell no gameplay wise? yes There is a difference here....Hepler is NOT responsible for the gameplay sections.texasgoldrush

Dafuq?

What has gameplay to do with it? The gameplay didn't change from one zone to the other :|

"Let's just sit on our ass until a deus ex machina is pulled and let somebody who has absolutely no clue about politics decide who the next ruler will be". WTF?

And what about the whole Broodmother thing? That was the most disturbing pieces in DAO. Could have been totally avoided.

DURRR HERP LOL ASSUMPTIONSWilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] she's a pathetic writer who got the job because of her husband she can't write for crap and bioware would have done better hiring hideo kojima or the author of the twilight saga stop making excuses: bioware has absolutely failed as a decent developer this year. they proved with dragon age 2 that they had lost what little innovation and artistry they had left in them. with TOR, aka WoW 2.0 with lightsabers and crappy artstyle, they finalized their mediocrity and spent millions in the process.princeofshapeir

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbbGX4Wz0Y

my dog could write better than this crap

and yet she has a job at Bioware and you don't......... Hell, I bet she is a FAR better writer than you would be. Could you do better? I don't think so. And how does DAII PROVE that they lost innovation and artistry? Nevermind the fact that the friendship rivalry system they used was quite different, and that the entire story was unique and different. The problem was that it was rushed out the door so the game was not finished. Speaking of innovation...... Hell, what if I called Baldur's Gate and Ultima VII clone in a D&D universe? Everybody is influenced by something. They are just as innovative now as they ever were. texasgoldrush

It's her ****ing job to be a writer. Of course she should be a better writer than a random guy on a forum :|

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and what crap, she was trashed first. As for professionally, she wrote the entire Dwarven storylines for DAO...wrote Hawke's family and Anders for DAII. They weren't crap.N30F3N1X

Orzammar and the Deep Roads were the worst parts of DAO...

not to mention the anders storyline crap, and how anders was an annoying character the whole da ii.

This is why we gamers aren't being taken seirously. Until we learn to grow up and not attack someone with visious insults we ain't getting a bone thrown at us.

and yet those people who whine are the MINORITY, its the MINORITY that whine on the forums. Hell l if I go to WoW's forums, they whine about that game too. i guess you cannot tell the difference between the consensus and the whining minority. Nevermind the fact that TOR is also praised for its writing and gameplay, FAR more consistantly than its being blasted for it an dthat the critical response is FAR more positive than negative. And how does DAII kill the IP, last time I checked, there is a DAIII coming. And since you seem to lack gaming experience, here is an example of a game that killed a series, Ultima iX, that game was FAR worse than DAII, FAR worse.texasgoldrush

Remember what Notch said about DA3 ;) ?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] she's a pathetic writer who got the job because of her husband she can't write for crap and bioware would have done better hiring hideo kojima or the author of the twilight saga stop making excuses: bioware has absolutely failed as a decent developer this year. they proved with dragon age 2 that they had lost what little innovation and artistry they had left in them. with TOR, aka WoW 2.0 with lightsabers and crappy artstyle, they finalized their mediocrity and spent millions in the process.princeofshapeir

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbbGX4Wz0Y

my dog could write better than this crap

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and what crap, she was trashed first. As for professionally, she wrote the entire Dwarven storylines for DAO...wrote Hawke's family and Anders for DAII. They weren't crap.Krelian-co

Orzammar and the Deep Roads were the worst parts of DAO...

not to mention the anders storyline crap, and how anders was an annoying character the whole da ii.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Orzammar and the Deep Roads were the worst parts of DAO...

texasgoldrush

not to mention the anders storyline crap, and how anders was an annoying character the whole da ii.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

So Chris metzen gets bashed all the time for runing Warcraft and Starcraft, yet no one cares and Chris takes it on the chin like a boss and accepts when he messes up

but as soon as a female writer gets bashed for ruining a game, its a big deal simply because she is female?

thats all i see here, if she didnt have a vagina that we were all "jealous" of, no one would care

Mazoch

If people were criticizing a BioWare game in a reasonably level headed way there wouldn't be a problem.If a bunch of people made a flood of personal attacks against Chris Metzen it would be equally disgusting.

Or in simpler terms

- I don't like the work you did on DA2, I thought the story was poorly paced and the game felt unoriginal and disappointing - Acceptable.

- You're a #@$#@ who should die. You Jew @#$ should be fired, I hate you! - Not acceptable.

oh Metzen gets much worse than that

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] and yet she has a job at Bioware and you don't......... Hell, I bet she is a FAR better writer than you would be. Could you do better? I don't think so. And how does DAII PROVE that they lost innovation and artistry? Nevermind the fact that the friendship rivalry system they used was quite different, and that the entire story was unique and different. The problem was that it was rushed out the door so the game was not finished. Speaking of innovation...... Hell, what if I called Baldur's Gate and Ultima VII clone in a D&D universe? Everybody is influenced by something. They are just as innovative now as they ever were. texasgoldrush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKbbGX4Wz0Y

my dog could write better than this crap

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]not to mention the anders storyline crap, and how anders was an annoying character the whole da ii.Ace6301

I really feel sorry for the mob mentality around helper and how people are atttacking her like crazy.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

So Chris metzen gets bashed all the time for runing Warcraft and Starcraft, yet no one cares and Chris takes it on the chin like a boss and accepts when he messes up

but as soon as a female writer gets bashed for ruining a game, its a big deal simply because she is female?

thats all i see here, if she didnt have a vagina that we were all "jealous" of, no one would care

HaloinventedFPS

If people were criticizing a BioWare game in a reasonably level headed way there wouldn't be a problem.If a bunch of people made a flood of personal attacks against Chris Metzen it would be equally disgusting.

Or in simpler terms

- I don't like the work you did on DA2, I thought the story was poorly paced and the game felt unoriginal and disappointing - Acceptable.

- You're a #@$#@ who should die. You Jew @#$ should be fired, I hate you! - Not acceptable.

oh Metzen gets much worse than that

I don't doubt that for a second and I don't think it's in any way acceptable.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

If people were criticizing a BioWare game in a reasonably level headed way there wouldn't be a problem.If a bunch of people made a flood of personal attacks against Chris Metzen it would be equally disgusting.

Or in simpler terms

- I don't like the work you did on DA2, I thought the story was poorly paced and the game felt unoriginal and disappointing - Acceptable.

- You're a #@$#@ who should die. You Jew @#$ should be fired, I hate you! - Not acceptable.

Mazoch

oh Metzen gets much worse than that

I don't doubt that for a second and I don't think it's in any way acceptable.

its fine because he is a male

if he was female, it wouldnt be fine

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

oh Metzen gets much worse than that

HaloinventedFPS

I don't doubt that for a second and I don't think it's in any way acceptable.

its fine because he is a male

if he was female, it wouldnt be fine

Nevermind the fact that Anders WAS MADE to be annoying.texasgoldrush

Made to be annoying doesn't excuse the fact that the character is annoying as all hell. If I intended to smell like sh*t and roll around in horse crap then go walk the streets of Melbourne doesn't excuse the fact I smell like turd.

Consumers as well as critics have the right to call out any factors that may have irritated them in their experiences.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Nevermind the fact that Anders WAS MADE to be annoying.Vesica_Prime

Made to be annoying doesn't excuse the fact that the character is annoying as all hell. If I intended to smell like sh*t and roll around in horse crap then go walk the streets of Melbourne doesn't excuse the fact I smell like turd.

Consumers as well as critics have the right to call out any factors that may have irritated them in their experiences.

The people who have attacked her and those who support the abuse are what make the gaming population pathetic. Grow up.

From my experience playing Dragon Age 2, I would agree that she's not a good writer. However, making bad art shouldn't invite people to harass and degrade the artist, and there's simply no way to excuse or defend the harsh, bigoted and immature comments made against her.

Whenever I hear "Gamer Entitlement" I get annoyed. We're the people PAYING for the game. SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

oh Metzen gets much worse than that

HaloinventedFPS

I don't doubt that for a second and I don't think it's in any way acceptable.

its fine because he is a male

if he was female, it wouldnt be fine

I don't agree with that, and I dont think that's really the point that's being made here. The reason why Hepler is being talked about is because this came up as a concentrated flood of attacks rather than a steady stream of attacks like I'm sure Metzen (and a lot of other devs) see on a daily basis.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Nevermind the fact that Anders WAS MADE to be annoying.texasgoldrush

Made to be annoying doesn't excuse the fact that the character is annoying as all hell. If I intended to smell like sh*t and roll around in horse crap then go walk the streets of Melbourne doesn't excuse the fact I smell like turd.

Consumers as well as critics have the right to call out any factors that may have irritated them in their experiences.

Noticed how Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in Phantom Menace thought Jar Jar Binks was an annoying runt in the movie especially in the market scene where Jar Jar tries to eat everything?

Does that excuse the fact that the audience found Jar Jar incredibly annoying?

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Made to be annoying doesn't excuse the fact that the character is annoying as all hell. If I intended to smell like sh*t and roll around in horse crap then go walk the streets of Melbourne doesn't excuse the fact I smell like turd.

Consumers as well as critics have the right to call out any factors that may have irritated them in their experiences.

Vesica_Prime

Noticed how Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan in Phantom Menace thought Jar Jar Binks was an annoying runt in the movie especially in the market scene where Jar Jar tries to eat everything?

Does that excuse the fact that the audience found Jar Jar incredibly annoying?

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

I don't doubt that for a second and I don't think it's in any way acceptable.

Mazoch

its fine because he is a male

if he was female, it wouldnt be fine

I don't agree with that, and I dont think that's really the point that's being made here. The reason why Hepler is being talked about is because this came up as a concentrated flood of attacks rather than a steady stream of attacks like I'm sure Metzen (and a lot of other devs) see on a daily basis.

and yet, you can't kill or kick Jar Jar out of the party. If you do not want Anders, you can actually kick him out.texasgoldrush

Anders' questline and romance ARE part of the game and a reviewer or person critiquing a piece of entertainment one should always play through all parts of the game and critique those parts which are weaker than the rest of the game.

It's like dismissing Halo as a bad game because one did not try out the multiplayer.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]and yet, you can't kill or kick Jar Jar out of the party. If you do not want Anders, you can actually kick him out.Vesica_Prime

Anders' questline and romance ARE part of the game and a reviewer or person critiquing a piece of entertainment one should always play through all parts of the game and critique those parts which are weaker than the rest of the game.

It's like dismissing Halo as a bad game because one did not try out the multiplayer.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]and yet, you can't kill or kick Jar Jar out of the party. If you do not want Anders, you can actually kick him out.texasgoldrush

Anders' questline and romance ARE part of the game and a reviewer or person critiquing a piece of entertainment one should always play through all parts of the game and critique those parts which are weaker than the rest of the game.

It's like dismissing Halo as a bad game because one did not try out the multiplayer.

Semantics, the point is that Ander's questline and romance are part of the game and should be included in one's opinion of a game and that neglecting to do it does not mean it doesn't exists.

As for saying Dragon Age 2 is horrible due to Ander's questline and romance? That's a hyperbole, however there's also other complaints (that you don't necessarily agree with) that also contribute to people's opinions that Dragon Age 2 is sub-par/horrible.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Anders' questline and romance ARE part of the game and a reviewer or person critiquing a piece of entertainment one should always play through all parts of the game and critique those parts which are weaker than the rest of the game.

It's like dismissing Halo as a bad game because one did not try out the multiplayer.

Vesica_Prime

Semantics, the point is that Ander's questline and romance are part of the game and should be included in one's opinion of a game and that neglecting to do it does not mean it doesn't exists.

As for saying Dragon Age 2 is horrible due to Ander's questline and romance? That's a hyperbole, however there's also other complaints (that you don't necessarily agree with) that also contribute to people's opinions that Dragon Age 2 is sub-par/horrible.

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princeofshapeir

DA2's problem was that EA forced BW to rush the game and BioWare had to cut corners which they have admitted. Problem wasn't in story or writing in general. Many reviewers praised the writing in DA2.

i wondered when gamespots own #1 biodrone was gonna show up in damage control, why hello there texas

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2139643.M_I_T_H_.SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2139643.M_I_T_H_.Shinobishyguy

Popular shelves: not-going-to-finish :lol:

I wonder if Shepard and another male co-worker will start to make out as the world is being destroyed.

She was the one that said that everyone is just jealous of her because she has a vagina and a job in the gaming industry. SAGE_OF_FIRE

:? 4 real?

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

dragon age 2--79

Icarian

DA2's problem was that EA forced BW to rush the game and BioWare had to cut corners which they have admitted. Problem wasn't in story or writing in general. Many reviewers praised the writing in DA2.