This is why PC > Consoles

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Better graphics, better game prices.

but consoles hav better games

but consoles hav better games

halo_wars86

CONOLES > PC

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PC gaming isn't better than console gaming. It's just different.

but consoles hav better games

halo_wars86

PC gaming = pirate GAMING

How is GRAW on PC? I hear it is completely different from the console versions? Same with Chaos Theory I guess...? What is the difference from console?

but consoles hav better games

halo_wars86

consoles have better games. you should check this

http://consoles.gwn.com/games/index.php/search/J/

How is GRAW on PC? I hear it is completely different from the console versions? Same with Chaos Theory I guess...? What is the difference from console?

Buttons1990

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

but consoles hav better games

soliderPp

How was GTA4 on PC?Mau-Justice

How was GTA4 on PC?Mau-Justice

Incredible, actually! For once, they finally nailed the driving so using the keyboard doesn't feel like crap. In fact, and I may be biased slightly, I prefer using the keyboard to drive in GTA 4 to the controller. And we all know the shooting is more precise with the mouse.

And, grapghically speaking, it looks great. I always hated GTA 4's shadows and I am glad I was allowed to disable them.

How was GTA4 on PC?Mau-Justice

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]How was GTA4 on PC?organic_machine

Incredible, actually! For once, they finally nailed the driving so using the keyboard doesn't feel like crap. In fact, and I may be biased slightly, I prefer using the keyboard to drive in GTA 4 to the controller. And we all know the shooting is more precise with the mouse.

And, grapghically speaking, it looks great. I always hated GTA 4's shadows and I am glad I was allowed to disable them.

How is GRAW on PC? I hear it is completely different from the console versions?

Buttons1990

Genre: 360 version is a solid paced TPS while the PC version is a slow paced FPS. The 360 version plays more like Ghost Recon 2 while the PC version plays more like the original Ghost Recon, and I played the 1st 2 Ghost Recons and they aren't alike, I'm such a Ghost Recon fan, LOL.

Multiplayer:

360-Has 16 players and 10 modes: Team Elimination, Team Territory, Team Objective, Solo Elimination, Solo Territory, Solo Objective, Co-op Campaign separate from the main campaign, Co-op Elimination, Co-op Territory, Co-op Objective. There's more options to chose from than the PC version and more ways to customize your soldiers.

PC-Has 32 players and 2 modes: Co-op campaign for the main campaign(you'll need it) and Domination. And it doesn't have a lot of options either.

Campaign differences-Different level designs(PC version's missions are much bigger and more wide open than the 360's smaller and linear levels), mission objectives that while some are the same even though they are done differently due to the level design, a lot are different and even removed from one version while adding another, enemies are placed at different spots and altered(one certain spot could have a sniper in one version and the other could have a enemy with a rocket launcher). The PC version is much harder and more tactical than the 360 version. The 360 version has more music, the PC has a lot less, a lot of it repeats itself. Certain missions are removed from 1 version while added to another(for example, as soon as you start both games, you'll notice that the 360 version has a training mission while the PC version doesn't).

Gameplay differences:

360-You control 3 other teammates at the same time. You can tell them to be aggressive to attack more fiercely. They listen to your orders very well. There's a cover system to use. There's no sprint like the PC version since you are always running. You have to hold the L button to aim well. You can use tanks and gadgets. You can switch different teammates. There are on rails sections.

PC-You can control 3 other teammates at the same time or individually. You can never tell them to be aggressive. They don't follow certain orders well. You have a sprint button, and you'll need it to move as fast as the 360 version since you always walk slow. The lack of cover due to the view is made up for a lean n peak. You can't use certain gadgets that the 360 version has, and no real tank support. You can't switch different teammates, you're stuck with the same 3 idiots. No on rails section.

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

but consoles hav better games

Brownesque

so killzone better than crysis?????

u cant compare fps or rts to pc they are far more superior than consoles. but ingeneral better games come to consoles than pc.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

but consoles hav better games

halo_wars86

so killzone better than crysis?????

u cant compare fps or rts to pc they are far more superior than consoles. but ingeneral better games come to consoles than pc.

Well, technically, not really. PC has the most high rated exclusives. BUT I can understand and respect your preference.

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

but consoles hav better games

so killzone better than crysis?????

u cant compare fps or rts to pc they are far more superior than consoles. but ingeneral better games come to consoles than pc.

[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Mau-Justice"]How was GTA4 on PC?TheElfChild

Incredible, actually! For once, they finally nailed the driving so using the keyboard doesn't feel like crap. In fact, and I may be biased slightly, I prefer using the keyboard to drive in GTA 4 to the controller. And we all know the shooting is more precise with the mouse.

And, grapghically speaking, it looks great. I always hated GTA 4's shadows and I am glad I was allowed to disable them.

Yeah flying helicopters is much much easier with a controller... And I don't get how you like driving with the keyboard... There are no soft movements like with an analogue stick and triggers... So you can't halfway hold a key like the trigger to drive slower or barely hold a key to turn slowly like you can with an analogue stick... you can either press it or not... There is no in between...

EDIT: Thanks for the reply above about GRAW, I guess I won't be grabbing it then because it sounds kind of terrible compared to the console version...

Yeah flying helicopters is much much easier with a controller... And I don't get how you like driving with the keyboard... There are no soft movements like with an analogue stick and triggers... So you can't halfway hold a key like the trigger to drive slower or barely hold a key to turn slowly like you can with an analogue stick... you can either press it or not... There is no in between...

Buttons1990

Well, you're right about that. I happen to think however it does not matter much... at least to me. It's not some feature that I would use ever and I don't think it makes much of a difference. But I suppose that is one advantage of joysticks.

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

Incredible, actually! For once, they finally nailed the driving so using the keyboard doesn't feel like crap. In fact, and I may be biased slightly, I prefer using the keyboard to drive in GTA 4 to the controller. And we all know the shooting is more precise with the mouse.

And, grapghically speaking, it looks great. I always hated GTA 4's shadows and I am glad I was allowed to disable them.

Buttons1990

EDIT: Thanks for the reply above about GRAW, I guess I won't be grabbing it then because it sounds kind of terrible compared to the console version...

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] Halo Wars > Dawn of War?? Since when do consoles have better games? I thought the lineup this generation was neck and neck, and all previous generations, PC has had better games than any single console.blue_hazy_basic

so killzone better than crysis?????

u cant compare fps or rts to pc they are far more superior than consoles. but ingeneral better games come to consoles than pc.

such as

metal gear solid4, halo3, heavenly sword, uncharted 1 and 2, fable 2, fable3, gear 2, ninja gaiden 1&2&sigma,killzone2, resistence 2,crackdown, infamous, heavy rain, alan wake,forza, gt5,bayonetta, shadow complex. i can go on all day. pc games cannot compete with console in terms of games. u can buy all 3 next gen consoles same price as a gaming pc.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

so killzone better than crysis?????

u cant compare fps or rts to pc they are far more superior than consoles. but ingeneral better games come to consoles than pc.

halo_wars86

such as

metal gear solid4, halo3, heavenly sword, uncharted 1 and 2, fable 2, fable3, gear 2, ninja gaiden 1&2&sigma,killzone2, resistence 2,crackdown, infamous, heavy rain, alan wake,forza, gt5,bayonetta, shadow complex. i can go on all day. pc games cannot compete with console in terms of games. u can buy all 3 next gen consoles same price as a gaming pc.

Oh and you can build a PC with no monitor (cos it can use the same TV you will for you consoles) for that price that will cream the consoles, as hasbeen shown a 1000 times on here

[QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Such as?blue_hazy_basic

such as

metal gear solid4, halo3, heavenly sword, uncharted 1 and 2, fable 2, fable3, gear 2, ninja gaiden 1&2σ,killzone2, resistence 2,crackdown, infamous, heavy rain, alan wake,forza, gt5,bayonetta, shadow complex. i can go on all day. pc games cannot compete with console in terms of games. u can buy all 3 next gen consoles same price as a gaming pc.

i dont know imo and i believe alot of people comsoles hav better games than pc. i jsut dont like the pc exclusive and i am not abg fan of rts. i like halo wars for its simplisity but i hate the rts gerne. i dont like online games like world of warcraft and i like shooters but not as much as platformers and third person adventure games. also it is easy to play 2 to 4 player in consoles whereas its a hassle to play offline coop in pcs

better game prices.TheElfChild

How was GTA4 on PC?Mau-Justice

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="halo_wars86"]

such as

metal gear solid4, halo3, heavenly sword, uncharted 1 and 2, fable 2, fable3, gear 2, ninja gaiden 1&2σ,killzone2, resistence 2,crackdown, infamous, heavy rain, alan wake,forza, gt5,bayonetta, shadow complex. i can go on all day. pc games cannot compete with console in terms of games. u can buy all 3 next gen consoles same price as a gaming pc.

i dont know imo and i believe alot of people comsoles hav better games than pc. i jsut dont like the pc exclusive and i am not abg fan of rts. i like halo wars for its simplisity but i hate the rts gerne. i dont like online games like world of warcraft and i like shooters but not as much as platformers and third person adventure games. also it is easy to play 2 to 4 player in consoles whereas its a hassle to play offline coop in pcs

PC gaming isn't better than console gaming. It's just different.

NielsNL

This.

Facts speak for themselves. Preferences we can disagree on.blue_hazy_basic

Yay for opinions being passed off as factsshadow_hosi

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]better game prices.Thunderdrone

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Facts speak for themselves. Preferences we can disagree on.Vadamee

there is a large difference between professional opinion and fanboy opinion. The professional opinion always weighs far more and is very close to actually mattering on the subject

however

it is still an opinion, and being an opinion it is not a fact.

fact: PC games can play all games released for PC (with some work)

fact: Consoles can't play all of their predecessors games(360 is not full bc ps3 has 0 ps2 and wii is only GC and what is released on VC)

opinion: X > Y < Z (screw y, always acting a fool)

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Facts speak for themselves. Preferences we can disagree on.Vadamee

EDIT of course the reviews do not take into account the much higher standards applied to PC games, so you're right they are harsh on the PC. Remember the fuss when Halo Wars was scored compared to PC RTS's, my the fuss!

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="TheElfChild"]better game prices.Ontain

such as

metal gear solid4, halo3, heavenly sword, uncharted 1 and 2, fable 2, fable3, gear 2, ninja gaiden 1&2σ,killzone2, resistence 2,crackdown, infamous, heavy rain, alan wake,forza, gt5,bayonetta, shadow complex. i can go on all day. pc games cannot compete with console in terms of games. u can buy all 3 next gen consoles same price as a gaming pc.

halo_wars86

you put FPSs on that list? and wRPGs? wow. and racing games? wow wow wow.

and i wasnt aware you could buy all three systems for $500 thats amazing show me where

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Yay for opinions being passed off as factsTheElfChild

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Yay for opinions being passed off as factsshadow_hosi

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]Yay for opinions being passed off as factsshadow_hosi

actually wrong. graphics are fact. they have nothing to do with how the game looks or your opinion. graphics are the tech behind everything.

visuals are based on opinion and involve the art on top of the graphics

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="TheElfChild"] Better game prices isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Better graphic isn't an opinion, it's a fact. I haven't said a word of opinion in the OP.washd123

actually wrong. graphics are fact. they have nothing to do with how the game looks or your opinion. graphics are the tech behind everything.

visuals are based on opinion and involve the art on top of the graphics

actually 'better' graphics is entirely subjective and everyone likes something different. if you really must know the game with the best graphics overall is SMG, it really has everything good going for it Crysis is the most realistic, doesn't mean its the best looking (graphics king always arguing over realism so it wins that by default) man fanboy arguments never make sense why do i keep coming back here?shadow_hosi

actually wrong. graphics are fact. they have nothing to do with how the game looks or your opinion. graphics are the tech behind everything.

visuals are based on opinion and involve the art on top of the graphics

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="washd123"]

actually wrong. graphics are fact. they have nothing to do with how the game looks or your opinion. graphics are the tech behind everything.

visuals are based on opinion and involve the art on top of the graphics

blue_hazy_basic

Crysis and Arma2 are the only games Ive played on my PC that look alot better than consoles. And you definitely need a really nice PC to max them out i.e expensive. Yea, multiplats look a little bit better, but its not that much. The whole graphics thing is blown out of proportion.h575309

again looking better has little to do with graphics. thats again visuals.

crysis on high settings (which can be done on pretty much anything) has better graphics than any console game or any game for that matter. STALKER CS same thing but max. hell HL2 with the CM same thing.

most multiplats get a bump in graphics.whether its significant or not is irelevent

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="h575309"] Crysis and Arma2 are the only games Ive played on my PC that look alot better than consoles. And you definitely need a really nice PC to max them out i.e expensive. Yea, multiplats look a little bit better, but its not that much. The whole graphics thing is blown out of proportion.TheElfChild

[QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] To be honest I don't think most PC gamers care that much. Mods>graphicsblue_hazy_basic