what has better technical graphics

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

So you are trying to say editor pics > Fable 2 > my pics.

You do realize how stupid you look right now.

So you are trying to say editor pics > Fable 2 > my pics.

You do realize how stupid you look right now.

gatorteen

I think it is obvious from the pics i posted, right ? Of course pics exported in 5000x2000 then downscaled will look better than anything, since would be like adding the absolute AA on that image, no AA setting can do what supersampling does

Then Fable 2 looks as clean ,the the blurry pics you posted

So, try Edge AA

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

saolin323

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

[QUOTE="gatorteen"]

So you are trying to say editor pics > Fable 2 > my pics.

You do realize how stupid you look right now.

saolin323

I think it is obvious from the pics i posted, right ? Of course pics exported in 5000x2000 then downscaled will look better than anything, since would be like adding the absolute AA on that image, no AA setting can do what supersampling does

Then Fable 2 looks as clean ,the the blurry pics you posted

So, try Edge AA

What?

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

ithilgore2006

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

But your argument is not based on antyhting

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc

Why do you think it is behind ? Because you refuse to believe what you see Fable 2 is doing in graphics ?

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles

Well, can i get a REAL anwer, why are light beams and shadows of Fable 2 ... inferior to the same things in Crysis exactly ?

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

saolin323

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

saolin323

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

But your argument is not based on antyhting

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc

Why do you think it is behind ? Because you refuse to believe what you see Fable 2 is doing in graphics ?

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles

Well, can i get a REAL anwer, why are light beams and shadows of Fable 2 ... inferior to the same things in Crysis exactly ?

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?

Your argument is like a college football team vs a pro. Yeah college teams have everything that the pros have, but they're just not as good.

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

cobrax25

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

I do not see how it doubles monitor resolution though, i mean, it uses magic or something, because there are no 5000x 2000 pixel montors i know of yet

Why is this even a question? We all know the answer....Crysis. Anyways, Fable 2 still looks delicious.fakecliche

What he said.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

gatorteen

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

But your argument is not based on antyhting

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc

Why do you think it is behind ? Because you refuse to believe what you see Fable 2 is doing in graphics ?

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles

Well, can i get a REAL anwer, why are light beams and shadows of Fable 2 ... inferior to the same things in Crysis exactly ?

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?

Your argument is like a college football team vs a pro. Yeah college teams have everything that the pros have, but they're just not as good.

You are hardly ANY convincing, what i see is more blurry grass and trees on Crysis, so in that case Fable 2 is the pro team, right ? I mean it uses those shadows and beams in CRISP grass and trees environments, not blurry as hell ones, like Crysis pics posted here

You do not make sense still

Also what about the 99% of the other games coming that have NO dynamic shadows or light beams ot 120.00 leaf trees and full grass on the ground ? Those are ALL in collage teams, and only Crysis and Fable 2 battle for the better pro position, right ?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

saolin323

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

I do not see how it doubles monitor resolution though, i mean, it uses magic or something, because there are no 5000x 2000 pixel montors i know of yet

where did you get the idea that its rendered in 5000 by 2000....

GPU's physiclly cant even support that resolution....

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

saolin323

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

But your argument is not based on antyhting

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc

Why do you think it is behind ? Because you refuse to believe what you see Fable 2 is doing in graphics ?

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles

Well, can i get a REAL anwer, why are light beams and shadows of Fable 2 ... inferior to the same things in Crysis exactly ?

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?

OMFG! 80% disagree with you and your argument is based on subjective matters at best. Until you can provide evidence that Fable is technically better, STFU.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

cobrax25

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

I do not see how it doubles monitor resolution though, i mean, it uses magic or something, because there are no 5000x 2000 pixel montors i know of yet

where did you get the idea that its rendered in 5000 by 2000....

GPU's physiclly cant even support that resolution....

thank you cobrax25 I didnt even think about that. Most GPUs can only handle 2560 x 1600.

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

cobrax25

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

I do not see how it doubles monitor resolution though, i mean, it uses magic or something, because there are no 5000x 2000 pixel montors i know of yet

where did you get the idea that its rendered in 5000 by 2000....

GPU's physiclly cant even support that resolution....

I got most those amazing Crysis pics from Neogaf, those are EXPORETD from the editor in 5000x2000, or more resolutions, then downscaled to 720p

Read the below blog

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=202803

Here is the offcial answer why these pics look so cool

Originally Posted by Arcipello

i took all my screenshots at a resolution of 3360 by 2100... resolution is the key factor in getting crisp screenshots and its always been that way. i use the same method that crytek themself use to take screenshots. you seem to think however that i "faked" these screenshots somehow, like i actually created them in photoshop, no such thing, everything you see in the screenshots is crysis.

So, i guess the game is not playable that way yet, has anyone tried ?

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc
1. LIGHT BEAMS?! Any game can have good light beams, they're easy to add and take no serious calculations. It's just a flat mesh with a transparent texture, unless you're talking real "light beams," in which case Fable's don't compare at all. Stunning shadows? I assume you mean the tree shadows on the grass, they are nothing special, in fact many games have them.

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles
Far Cry 2 doesn't look half as good yet.

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?
Because their leaves aren't 3D like Crysis; You can brush aside the leaves in Crysis as well as shoot them and they fall/explode/distintegrate. Fable 2's leaves from what we've seen so far seem very static, just like a floating particle effect almost.

saolin323

[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

Sorry, pics above prove Fable 2 looks totally comparable, look at the shadows in grass, light beams, detail etc

It has nothjing below Crysis, sorry

Also if you CAN play the game like that, why are ALL in game pics with hud like jokes comparing ?

saolin323

Its a PC game...it lets you get rid of the hud and go into no clip mode, and a whole bunch of dev. tool features at any time you want.

I do not see how it doubles monitor resolution though, i mean, it uses magic or something, because there are no 5000x 2000 pixel montors i know of yet

where did you get the idea that its rendered in 5000 by 2000....

GPU's physiclly cant even support that resolution....

I got most those amazing Crysis pics from Neogaf, those are EXPORETD from the editor in 5000x2000, or more resolutions, then downscaled to 720p

Read the below blog

http://labwarrior.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=viewblog&id=202803

Here is the offcial answer why these pics look so cool

Originally Posted by Arcipello

i took all my screenshots at a resolution of 3360 by 2100... resolution is the key factor in getting crisp screenshots and its always been that way. i use the same method that crytek themself use to take screenshots. you seem to think however that i "faked" these screenshots somehow, like i actually created them in photoshop, no such thing, everything you see in the screenshots is crysis.

So, i guess the game is not playable that way yet, has anyone tried ?

fine than look at a video if you still dont believe it....

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/169185.html

you are so stubborn its unbelievable....its amazing that you continue going on when not a single person in this whole thread has agreed with you.

Ok i dont understand. How can he take the images at 5000 x 2000 if not monitor can support it?gatorteen

I think the bigger problem is in the fact that not a single video card out their can support that kind of resolution.

Wow....unbelievable.:lol: Saolin, Fable 2 is looking great and the art direction is brilliant, but the fact that you are trying to claim that it is technically superior to friiggin' Crysis just boggles the mind. We all can see that the game is progressing wonderfully, but to even mention it in the same sentence with Crysis when discussing graphical prowess is an epic fail if there ever was one. ironcreed

I agree. Fable 2 looks phenomenal especially that pic with the Windmill. But, damn. It seems to me hes just trying to convince himself and everyone else around him that consoles are technically just as powerful as a PC and that is NOT true. PCs don't cost more than a console for nothing.

I agree. Fable 2 looks phenomenal especially that pic with the Windmill. But, damn. It seems to me hes just trying to convince himself and everyone else around him that consoles are technically just as powerful as a PC and that is NOT true. PCs don't cost more than a console for nothing.

VoodooGamer

ALL i am trying to say, is that Fable 2 above any other game today, uses the most and most important graphics features Crysis uses, and thus looks so amazing

I am not saying it does them 100% as crisp or detailed as Crysis, but is the closest thing

Also the list of features i made, are features used in Fable 2, and features that MAINLY make Crysis as great looking, so my argument is 100% perfectly placed IMO, and i still have to get an intelligent answer, i only get ignorance or fanboyism

I have yet to understand why people find god rays and volumetric effects in Crysis the best thing ever, but when they find the EXACT same effect on Fable 2, noone cares ?

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc
1. LIGHT BEAMS?! Any game can have good light beams, they're easy to add and take no serious calculations. It's just a flat mesh with a transparent texture, unless you're talking real "light beams," in which case Fable's don't compare at all. Stunning shadows? I assume you mean the tree shadows on the grass, they are nothing special, in fact many games have them.

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles
Far Cry 2 doesn't look half as good yet.

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?
Because their leaves aren't 3D like Crysis; You can brush aside the leaves in Crysis as well as shoot them and they fall/explode/distintegrate. Fable 2's leaves from what we've seen so far seem very static, just like a floating particle effect almost.

Saturos3091

No, those light beams you talk about are FAKE light beams, and not dynamic as the sun moves or anything. Fable 2 and Crysis use VOLUMETRIC rendering for REAL light beams from the sun, that move as it rises and sets

I will acceot you have no clue what you are talking about though, and not take it further, you just did not know

The tree shadows on grass, is EXACTLY THE most amazing thing visually in Crysis and Fable 2 IMO, and no, dynamic shadows on grass has been done in VERY few games, those shadows move and stretch as the sun moves, like in Crysis, again i take it you did not know

I agree, Far Cry 2 looks empty comparing to Fable 2 forest pic, so Far Cry 2 as i have said

ALL i am trying to say, is that Fable 2 above any other game today, uses the most and most important graphics features Crysis uses, and thus looks so amazing

I am not saying it does them 100% as crisp or detailed as Crysis, but is the closest thing

Also the list of features i made, are features used in Fable 2, and features that MAINLY make Crysis as great looking, so my argument is 100% perfectly placed IMO, and i still have to get an intelligent answer, i only get ignorance or fanboyism

I have yet to understand why people find god rays and volumetric effects in Crysis the best thing ever, but when they find the EXACT same effect on Fable 2, noone cares ?

saolin323

Oh save it. You've been getting tons of intelligent posts, you just choose to ignore them. I think YOU are the one who has the fanboy spectacles on. Even the console fans in here have said Crysis looks better and some of them even detest PC gamers. So just save the bs.

Also everyone even the devs of Crysis knows that nothing of the sort is possible on the 360. Fable 2 looks good but you can see a difference...a clear difference. The textures aren't as sharp or as detailed. The foilage isn't as thick (obvious restraint from the 360s 512 mb of shared mem) and pretty much everything is a few notches lower.

To be honest I think Gears of War looks better than Fable 2. And, I would consider TES:Oblivion to be a greater technological achievment as it's completely open-ended.

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

I agree. Fable 2 looks phenomenal especially that pic with the Windmill. But, damn. It seems to me hes just trying to convince himself and everyone else around him that consoles are technically just as powerful as a PC and that is NOT true. PCs don't cost more than a console for nothing.

saolin323

ALL i am trying to say, is that Fable 2 above any other game today, uses the most and most important graphics features Crysis uses, and thus looks so amazing

I am not saying it does them 100% as crisp or detailed as Crysis, but is the closest thing

Also the list of features i made, are features used in Fable 2, and features that MAINLY make Crysis as great looking, so my argument is 100% perfectly placed IMO, and i still have to get an intelligent answer, i only get ignorance or fanboyism

I have yet to understand why people find god rays and volumetric effects in Crysis the best thing ever, but when they find the EXACT same effect on Fable 2, noone cares ?

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc
1. LIGHT BEAMS?! Any game can have good light beams, they're easy to add and take no serious calculations. It's just a flat mesh with a transparent texture, unless you're talking real "light beams," in which case Fable's don't compare at all. Stunning shadows? I assume you mean the tree shadows on the grass, they are nothing special, in fact many games have them.

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles
Far Cry 2 doesn't look half as good yet.

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?
Because their leaves aren't 3D like Crysis; You can brush aside the leaves in Crysis as well as shoot them and they fall/explode/distintegrate. Fable 2's leaves from what we've seen so far seem very static, just like a floating particle effect almost.

Saturos3091

No, those light beams you talk about are FAKE light beams, and not dynamic as the sun moves or anything. Fable 2 and Crysis use VOLUMETRIC rendering for REAL light beams from the sun, that move as it rises and sets

I will acceot you have no clue what you are talking about though, and not take it further, you just did not know

The tree shadows on grass, is EXACTLY THE most amazing thing visually in Crysis and Fable 2 IMO, and no, dynamic shadows on grass has been done in VERY few games, those shadows move and stretch as the sun moves, like in Crysis, again i take it you did not know

I agree, Far Cry 2 looks empty comparing to Fable 2 forest pic, so Far Cry 2 as i have said

Where are the god rays in Fable 2? I just see some minor lightbeams, but nothing compared to crysis.

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"]

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc
1. LIGHT BEAMS?! Any game can have good light beams, they're easy to add and take no serious calculations. It's just a flat mesh with a transparent texture, unless you're talking real "light beams," in which case Fable's don't compare at all. Stunning shadows? I assume you mean the tree shadows on the grass, they are nothing special, in fact many games have them.

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles
Far Cry 2 doesn't look half as good yet.

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?
Because their leaves aren't 3D like Crysis; You can brush aside the leaves in Crysis as well as shoot them and they fall/explode/distintegrate. Fable 2's leaves from what we've seen so far seem very static, just like a floating particle effect almost.

saolin323

No, those light beams you talk about are FAKE light beams, and not dynamic as the sun moves or anything. Fable 2 and Crysis use VOLUMETRIC rendering for REAL light beams from the sun, that move as it rises and sets

I will acceot you have no clue what you are talking about though, and not take it further, you just did not know

The tree shadows on grass, is EXACTLY THE most amazing thing visually in Crysis and Fable 2 IMO, and no, dynamic shadows on grass has been done in VERY few games, those shadows move and stretch as the sun moves, like in Crysis, again i take it you did not know

I agree, Far Cry 2 looks empty comparing to Fable 2 forest pic, so Far Cry 2 as i have said

[QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

The funny part is that Fable 2 compares easilly IMO to those amazing NOT IN GAME pics of Crysis

saolin323

I do not understand what you are talking about, but 10 people already agree with me

Also by pics above, you are wrong, Fable 2 rivals the very best of Crysis pics IMO

That is my opinion, by pics i see above, and is not goingto change because you said so

BTW how do you explain that ?

While Seeley did say that work on CryENGINE 2 for console was proceeding well with quality exceeding the PC engine's medium-level settings at 720p

K so you just owned yourself. Fable 2 is technically more impressive than Crysis,but consoles cant max Crysis out?

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volumes

You simply do not know enough as i said, about what technologies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

saolin323

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

saolin323

Stop avoiding my questions bud.

1. If consoles cant run Crysis at higher than medium settings,and they can max out fable 2,which one is more technologically impressive and demanding? Hmmm...

2. Also,how do you continue to state your opinion as fact when the poll shows 88% is against you.

[QUOTE="Uptown"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="WARxSnake"]

1. do you even know what supersampling is, or what it does, or did you just find that word somewhere on google?

2. why hasnt this thread been locked yet for stupidity?

3. have you seen Peter Molyneux' GDC presentation? the fighting in that game is the worst ive ever seen

saolin323

1. Rendering in higher resolutions internally, and downscaling to the native monitor resolution you choose, right ? That is how ALL those great looking Crysis pics were taken, but without supersampling you can't ever play the game looking that way

2. Because in the Fable 2 pic i posted, graphics look 100% comparable if not better in some ways to Crysis BEST pics in here, even the not in game ones

3. The presentation was a show of the co-op, was not meant to show how graphics are, the forest pic posted in the site is a near finalised in graphics area, and the game WILL look a lot better than that by release of course

As for the combat, Fable 1 was great fun to play, and one of the best 100% real time combat systems in any RPG to date, so why do you think Fable 2 will be worst ? Because of some seconds you show in the co-op presentation ?

Sorry Fable fanboy....Fable 2 isnt even top 5 graphically.

It is 2ond, after Crysis IMO

What about Gears of War 2? To tell the truth, I'd, somewhat, be startled if Fable 2 is a video game with more marvellous graphics than Gears of War.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"]

35 People voted Fable 2. Are those people aware that we are speaking of technical graphics and not artistic?

saolin323

I'm guessing it aswell. I've been looking the Fable 2 screenshots and technically it's decent, but certainly nothing to brag about.

Question not the Xbots, for theirs is the way of self-destruction (which can be very funny).

Aidenfury19

:lol:

Those Fable 2 shadows, detail and light volumetric beams are Crysis good, not just "decent" technically, since only Crysis does those effects !!!!!

RIGHT ?

I mean if Crysis effects are jusr decent, than 99% of coming games are what ? Below average ?

But your argument is not based on antyhting

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc

Why do you think it is behind ? Because you refuse to believe what you see Fable 2 is doing in graphics ?

Or just because a console game could never look like Crysis, even though Far Cry 2 will come to consoles

Well, can i get a REAL anwer, why are light beams and shadows of Fable 2 ... inferior to the same things in Crysis exactly ?

Why are the 120.000 leaves trees in Fable 2 behind Crysis trees that look blurry and messy too ?

[QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

Saturos3091

Like Crysis, Fable 2 has real light beams, that move as the sun moves, and are filtered through any geometry they meet with

That is ONLY going on in Crysis and Fable 2, no other game to date

You're impressed by about 5 trees in Fable 2 that have shadows and light beams, bloody Red Steel had light beams, try taking a look at Crysis, it has hundreds of trees, each one far better then any those you're bragging about. You refuse to believe Fable 2 is nothing special in graphics, the most knowledgeable experts here have shown you how, technically, Fable is not impressive. You're arguing with them, simply saying "but it looks as good", when it clearly doesn't, your eyes are simply refusing to see that.
ithilgore2006

No, not one "expert" here, has answered why the god rays and volumatric light beams moving with the sun, filtered by geomerty, are STUNNING to have in crysis, but somehow when they are foud in Fable 2, looking same way, and as dynamic, are not considered good

Maybe those "experts" are just PC fanboys, that would never accept 360 can do such effects, lihgitng and detail ? I think so

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

saolin323

Like Crysis, Fable 2 has real light beams, that move as the sun moves, and are filtered through any geometry they meet with

That is ONLY going on in Crysis and Fable 2, no other game to date

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

saolin323

Like Crysis, Fable 2 has real light beams, that move as the sun moves, and are filtered through any geometry they meet with

That is ONLY going on in Crysis and Fable 2, no other game to date

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="saolin323"]

No, you still are wrong

Those light beams in Crysis and Fable 2 are not faked as in games like Uncharted and Mass Effect, that are static and not lighting volums

You simply do not enough as i said, about what techmoligies Fable 2 and Crysis use, these are the only games so far, that those light beams are fully filtered as the geometry changes and sun moves, and are NOT like the other games you mention

So, again, you are wrong 100%, search more

Saturos3091

Like Crysis, Fable 2 has real light beams, that move as the sun moves, and are filtered through any geometry they meet with

That is ONLY going on in Crysis and Fable 2, no other game to date

YOUR POST

The Fable 2 pic shows light beams as good as Crysis ones, stunnign shadows on gras, as Crysis one etc
1. LIGHT BEAMS?! Any game can have good light beams, they're easy to add and take no serious calculations. It's just a flat mesh with a transparent texture, unless you're talking real "light beams," in which case Fable's don't compare at all. Stunning shadows? I assume you mean the tree shadows on the grass, they are nothing special, in fact many games have them.

The enlarged part is 100% false, see, i READ your post, you are wrong

saolin, they haven't confirmed ANYTHING able real-time volumetric lighting. NOTHING.

You seem REALLY attached to that one screenshot when the other screenshots released with it weren't so good.

all good but NOT Crysis level. I doubt even Lionhead would say it is even close.

here are those screenshots.

http://www.lionhead.com/fable2/screenshots.html

if all you need is one pretty good (not even close to Crysis level though) screenshot to say that it is the best looking game ever than you are a hopeless case who is obviously a blind fanboy.

saolin, they haven't confirmed ANYTHING able real-time volumetric lighting. NOTHING.

You seem REALLY attached to that one screenshot when the other screenshots released with it weren't so good.

all good but NOT Crysis level. I doubt even Lionhead would say it is even close.

here are those screenshots.

http://www.lionhead.com/fable2/screenshots.html

if all you need is one pretty good (not even close to Crysis level though) screenshot to say that it is the best looking game ever than you are a hopeless case who is obviously a blind fanboy.

horrowhip

Wow...Seriously saolin how can you look at that and see Crysis level graphics? Here:

YOUR POST

The enlarged part is 100% false, see, i READ your post, you are wrong

saolin323

You can see volumetric lighting in

- video diary #1

- the last pic you posted, lok up

- the forest pic

etc, it is not my imagination, right ?

And those pics, bar the forest, are from a level they had to show the co-op, that level as Peter said was totally NOT finished, the forest pic is from a finilised in prettyfication area, that is why it looks so much better

You do not expect the pics from a co-op demo, to look their best, right ? They were never meant to show how graphics are, and the level was not finished at all

Look at how Fable 1 looks, there is small detail everywhhere, i expect even that forest pic, to get even better in those 9 more months, as they confirmed will

You can see volumetric lighting in

- video diary #1

- the last pic you posted, lok up

- the forest pic

etc, it is not my imagination, right ?

And those pics, bar the forest, are from a level they had to show the co-op, that level as Peter said was totally NOT finished, the forest pic is from a finilised in prettyfication area, that is why it looks so much better

You do not expect the pics from a co-op demo, to look their best, right ? They were never meant to show how graphics are, and the level was not finished at all

Look at how Fable 1 looks, there is small detail everywhhere, i expect even that forest pic, to get even better in those 9 more months, as they confirmed will

saolin323

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[QUOTE="Killfox"]This is the funniest **** I have ever seen. People who think fable2 on a technical stand point is better than crysis are just crazy. Also if some of oyu are going by this. Then GTA5 must be better on a more technical standpoint then Forza2 even though forza2 as some of the most advanced phisycs in a a car game while GTA5 has barely any.Lonelynight

Crysis: looks good...Only vegetation,no imagination,generic tropical island

Fable 2;immersive world,better art.

Im gonna prefer how Fable 2 looks but Crysis easily wins in the technical departement

Exactly, the core level is really artistic, also I love the next level I think, when the jungle is frozen, but when you go forward it's normal, I love the contrast in that scenery.

You can see volumetric lighting in

- video diary #1

- the last pic you posted, lok up

- the forest pic

etc, it is not my imagination, right ?

And those pics, bar the forest, are from a level they had to show the co-op, that level as Peter said was totally NOT finished, the forest pic is from a finilised in prettyfication area, that is why it looks so much better

You do not expect the pics from a co-op demo, to look their best, right ? They were never meant to show how graphics are, and the level was not finished at all

Look at how Fable 1 looks, there is small detail everywhhere, i expect even that forest pic, to get even better in those 9 more months, as they confirmed will

saolin323

but it isn't real time volumetric... It is a preset particle effect. Just like those leaves that are flying around.... Geez... how can you NOT see that.