Why Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect ARE exclusive

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]and like ive said before they have the option of picking out what graphics card sound card video card they want windows is pretty much your only option if you want to play the newest pc games Vandalvideo

like what give me an example

Dude the only games you can't pirate are online heavy games, any single player game is easily pirated, not to mention the private servers and so on, most of my friends are hermits and pirate just about everything, they really don't run in to to much trouble. It's just to make the point anyway, if you have a capabale pc, the 360 is pretty much useless. Exclusives are what they are.Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

However outside of the SW's you make perfect sense... I don't game on PC's... (tried it several times, just couldn't get into it) so If I want to play gears, ME, and Bioshock then the 360 is my only option. That's why those games sell VERY well on the 360 because, obviously, a lot of gamers think like I do. They score well and sell well so theres really no need to worry about some fanboy saying "It's not teh exclusive.."

Hewkii

so, logically one could say "I don't play on the PS3, so DMC4 is an exclusive." and it would be correct?

Yes. Yes it is.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Given PC piracy I think this thread fails even more, if someone has a the chance to get a game for the pc rather then the 360 I think it's a pretty easy decision to make, not to mention how easy it is to simply pirate the game, I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, just saying it happens and takes away from the 360. I think the PS3 will prove the better exclusive machine in the long run, well except for the PC ofc, but the fact that the PS3 doesn't "share" their exclusives with the pc like this thread is trying to do, is a huge reason to get it instead of a 360.

PC + PS3 is the way to go this gen, screw wii60 lol

Eddie-Vedder

Dude the only games you can't pirate are online heavy games, any single player game is easily pirated, not to mention the private servers and so on, most of my friends are hermits and pirate just about everything, they really don't run in to to much trouble. It's just to make the point anyway, if you have a capabale pc, the 360 is pretty much useless. Exclusives are what they are.

heaven forbid we add an adjective that describes the exclusive like 360, sony, ms, wii, nintenod, etc....

like what give me an exampleParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

However outside of the SW's you make perfect sense... I don't game on PC's... (tried it several times, just couldn't get into it) so If I want to play gears, ME, and Bioshock then the 360 is my only option. That's why those games sell VERY well on the 360 because, obviously, a lot of gamers think like I do. They score well and sell well so theres really no need to worry about some fanboy saying "It's not teh exclusive.."

thrones

so, logically one could say "I don't play on the PS3, so DMC4 is an exclusive." and it would be correct?

Yes. Yes it is.

and im in this chain only to appear at the end and wash my hands of the stupidity *shakes head*

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]you keep saying that they will be available soon but games like bioshock have been out for a long time now and wine still doesnt support it hell even games i played a few years ago still are not on wine supportVandalvideo

but thats simply not true

you have games like bioshock that has been out for a long time so thats a moot point

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]like what give me an exampleVandalvideo

BIOS is a part of the motherboard. EVERYTHING else mentioned comes with windows lol.

and im in this chain only to appear at the end and wash my hands of the stupidity *shakes head*

L1qu1dSword

que?

Problem is MS is a software company and to help make its software seem more appealing with the the different OS's on the market now, it needs to have game software to help, thusly the Games for Windows brand.

So games like Gears, Mass Effect and Halo will naturally wind up on PC as well.

But if its not on a Sony or Nintendo system then it should still be viewed as a postive for Xbox.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]like what give me an exampleVandalvideo

yes thats my point you need the software in order for OS to read the drivers you have which are HARDWAREand you can choice what kind of hardware you can put in your pc

but thats simply not true you have games like bioshock that has been out for a long time so thats a moot pointParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]like I said you have very little option but to use window when you want to play pc gameL1qu1dSword

Which is pointless for you to do because I never claimed PC was a Microsoft Platform. Technically its not a platform at all as the components are identical to what is found in consoles( RAM, CPU, GRAPHICS CARD) in fact the ONLY difference besides a few input devices are the freaking OS's!!!!

If its not a Microsoft platform, then how can you say games that it shares with the 360 are MS exclusive? :| And that last part doesn't even make sense, the PC isn't a gaming platform because its made up of the same parts as the consoles? WTF? It is both the name of the platform and the name of the system...

Problem is MS is a software company and to help make its software seem more appealing with the the different OS's on the market now, it needs to have game software to help, thusly the Games for Windows brand.

So games like Gears, Mass Effect and Halo will naturally wind up on PC as well.

But if its not on a Sony or Nintendo system then it should still be viewed as a postive for Xbox.

-Ninja_Dog-

Right because they have so much trouble with all the competition :roll:

yes thats my point you need the software in order for OS to read the drivers you have which are HARDWARE and you can choice what kind of hardware you can put in your pcParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]but thats simply not true you have games like bioshock that has been out for a long time so thats a moot pointVandalvideo

I did look at the games they have and I see alot of games missing especially newer games that have come out in the past year

I did look at the games they have and I see alot of games missing especially newer games that have come out in the past yearParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]yes thats my point you need the software in order for OS to read the drivers you have which are HARDWARE and you can choice what kind of hardware you can put in your pcVandalvideo

and like I said before you can choice what company products to put into your pc ie motherboard,graphic cards,video whatever. The software you use is a product of your choice for picking up the hardware. But in windows case you dont really have a choice on what os you use

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]I did look at the games they have and I see alot of games missing especially newer games that have come out in the past yearVandalvideo

dude come on now i just mentioned three very popular pc games that came out several months ago that wine doesnt have

what is your definition of new anyways?

and like I said before you can choice what company products to put into your pc ie motherboard,graphic cards,video whatever. The software you use is a product of your choice for picking up the hardware. But in windows case you dont really have a choice on what os you useParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]yes thats my point you need the software in order for OS to read the drivers you have which are HARDWARE and you can choice what kind of hardware you can put in your pcVandalvideo

I never tried to say Microsoft owned PC hardware and for the purpose of my discussion this is entirely irrelevant. Tell you what if you can copy paste and show a logical progression from where i started to where you are now mayeb we can talk. Right now its pointless as you are on crusade to prove absolutely nothing. You are completely lost.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]yes thats my point you need the software in order for OS to read the drivers you have which are HARDWARE and you can choice what kind of hardware you can put in your pcParadiddleFill

and like I said before you can choice what company products to put into your pc ie motherboard,graphic cards,video whatever. The software you use is a product of your choice for picking up the hardware. But in windows case you dont really have a choice on what os you use

But, Microsoft doesn't make money off Window's games like others.

They make money off 360 games because of the licensing fee (the reason console games are more expensive than PC games)

dude come on now i just mentioned three very popular pc games that came out several months ago that wine doesnt havewhat is your definition of new anyways?ParadiddleFill

I never tried to say Microsoft owned PC hardware and for the purpose of my discussion this is entirely irrelevant. Tell you what if you can copy paste and show a logical progression from where i started to where you are now mayeb we can talk. Right now its pointless as you are on crusade to prove absolutely nothing. You are completely lost.L1qu1dSword

Can anyone explain this to me.... why do 360 owners always want PS3 exclusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exclusives going multiplat they panic ?

Can anyone explain to me why do 360 owners always want PS3 exlusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exlusives going multiplat they panic ?

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]and like I said before you can choice what company products to put into your pc ie motherboard,graphic cards,video whatever. The software you use is a product of your choice for picking up the hardware. But in windows case you dont really have a choice on what os you useVandalvideo

but it does though because youre pretty much forced to use their OS if lets say you wanted to play gears of war or bioshock, on the other hand you can pick what kind of hardware you want in order to run it

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

t3hTwinky

lets not go any furter till you respond to my large response from before. this is out of hand :) tell you what! fuzzysquashes post towards the start of the thread is now required reading kids.

so many people understood this fine even if they disagreed they at least understood. these two guys with the kirby icons are completely hopeless.

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Problem is MS is a software company and to help make its software seem more appealing with the the different OS's on the market now, it needs to have game software to help, thusly the Games for Windows brand.

So games like Gears, Mass Effect and Halo will naturally wind up on PC as well.

But if its not on a Sony or Nintendo system then it should still be viewed as a postive for Xbox.

L1qu1dSword

Right because they have so much trouble with all the competition :roll:

They may or might not, but MS is not one to wait and see.

And its all about of business I'm sure when thet approach devs and say make a game for our Xbox and then you can eventually port it over to PC with little to no hassle because of the similarities of the two systems. That must be very appealing to a lot of developers.

Can anyone explain to me why do 360 owners always want PS3 exlusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exlusives going multiplat they panic ?

sakura_Ex

A.) sounds like a topic for another thread. go run along and create it ok?

but it does though because youre pretty much forced to use their OS if lets say you wanted to play gears of war or bioshock, on the other hand you can pick what kind of hardware you want in order to run it ParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]dude come on now i just mentioned three very popular pc games that came out several months ago that wine doesnt havewhat is your definition of new anyways?Vandalvideo

the bioshock link you provided is broken so i assume that its not there, crysis ill give you that one but as i said before if it doesnt have the popular pc games like bioshock or gears of war then using wine is a moot point

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"]

Problem is MS is a software company and to help make its software seem more appealing with the the different OS's on the market now, it needs to have game software to help, thusly the Games for Windows brand.

So games like Gears, Mass Effect and Halo will naturally wind up on PC as well.

But if its not on a Sony or Nintendo system then it should still be viewed as a postive for Xbox.

-Ninja_Dog-

Right because they have so much trouble with all the competition :roll:

They may or might not, but MS is not one to wait and see.

And its all about of business I'm sure when thet approach devs and say make a game for our Xbox and then you can eventually port it over to PC with little to no hassle because of the similarities of the two systems. That must be very appealing to a lot of developers.

So again if the game is not on a Sony or Nintendo system then it should still be viewed as a postive for Xbox.

hey clueless kirby guys. read this dude's post. he seems to understand! its not too late for you!

but it does though because youre pretty much forced to use their OS if lets say you wanted to play gears of war or bioshock, on the other hand you can pick what kind of hardware you want in order to run it

ParadiddleFill

though owning it would imply they had some sort of control over it, which they don't. if they did, you would see GFW: Live as the preferred online service over Steam or Xfire.

the bioshock link you provided is broken so i assume that its not there, crysis ill give you that one but as i said before if it doesnt have the popular pc games like bioshock or gears of war then using wine is a moot pointParadiddleFill

Can anyone explain to me why do 360 owners always want PS3 exlusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exlusives going multiplat they panic ?

sakura_Ex

Its not a Panic. Its the harsh reality that owning a console by a PC software company would eventually make it easy money to port its games to the PC.

And then have cows and sheep through salt in the wound and say its not exclusive.

i can name you alot of other pc games that came out a few months ago and see if wine has itParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

Can anyone explain to me why do 360 owners always want PS3 exlusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exlusives going multiplat they panic ?

L1qu1dSword

A.) sounds like a topic for another thread. go run along and create it ok?

In other words " I can't explain it ".

hey clueless kirby guys. read this dude's post. he seems to understand! its not too late for you!

L1qu1dSword

it doesn't really matter if it's a positive for another system or not. the fact of the matter is that it's not exclusive. if you really want to bash the PS3, though, just do what the trolls of old did with the Wii: make a "these games aren't going to be on the the PS3" topic.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]the bioshock link you provided is broken so i assume that its not there, crysis ill give you that one but as i said before if it doesnt have the popular pc games like bioshock or gears of war then using wine is a moot pointVandalvideo

and if you read the reviews for the game people have rated it as garbage and saying that it wont start up and doesnt work the only thing reviewed as bronze is the demo version

looks like you completely disproved yourself. lol. you would have beeen better off not posting that at all.L1qu1dSword

and if you read the reviews for the game people have rated it as garbage and saying that it wont start up and doesnt work the only thing reviewed as bronze is the demo versioParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]i can name you alot of other pc games that came out a few months ago and see if wine has itVandalvideo

i did look at the archives and found alot of games missing

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]i can name you alot of other pc games that came out a few months ago and see if wine has itParadiddleFill

i did look at the archives and found alot of games missing

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

Can anyone explain to me why do 360 owners always want PS3 exlusives to go multiplat but when it comes to their exlusives going multiplat they panic ?

sakura_Ex

A.) sounds like a topic for another thread. go run along and create it ok?

In other words " I can't explain it ".

L1qu1d only responds to comments he can handle.

This thread is all about him inventing his own terminology so he can still claim that games like Gears, Bioshock, etc are exclusive. He knows they're not 360 exclusive, so he invents this new 'MS Exclusive' term to make his beloved 360 sound more impressive.

This thread reall and truly is pointless. Fact is Gears is available on the PC too, 360 fanboys need to get over it.

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]and if you read the reviews for the game people have rated it as garbage and saying that it wont start up and doesnt work the only thing reviewed as bronze is the demo versioVandalvideo

elbow grease he doesnt tell you how or anything thats a trust worthy review lol

elbow grease he doesnt tell you how or anything thats a trust worthy review lol ParadiddleFill