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#2 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Have you by chance ever played Condemned: Criminal Origins or System Shock 2?

There is no substantial debate about the "horror" aspect of RE4 and 5... its the "survival" aspect. Horror is usually defined by anxiety and disturbing violence. Which is only made worse by the survival aspect.

Plus... the base shotgun can down entire crowds of Ganados... I wouldn't exactly call that "tough."-DrRobotnik-
another person who hasn't played the RE5 demo, nor RE4 on pro. So a game is considered survival horror if the elemets or the game, are DISTURBING, ANXIETY? lol, some RE4 BOTH HAS. i think people have forgotten RE4 and what the game actually had. RE4 survival aspect: 1, especially on pro, you can easily run out of ammo. CHECK! 2.Enemies are aggressive and stay in packs...easily taken down if reloading at bad times or not using the right weapons. 3. timed button sequences, relys on speed and quickness to survive...giving the player more tension and anxiety. 4. REGENERATORS, require precise and accurate shots to the weak point to kill...tension and axiety can be felt as each shot missed gets you closer to death. etc etc. these among other gameplay elements make it s a SURVIVAL HORROR. games like condemned are so easy, as you can use anything as a weapon to kill.

Survival =/= difficulty. I dont know where youre getting that from. PGR4 is very hard on Platinum, does that make it a survival racing game? No. RE4 goes further down the action path than it does the survival. Oh and btw, i think everyone agrees the RE games are horror, thats not the argument. Its the "survival" aspect.

So leon isn't trying to survive when saving ashley, his just taking her for a stroll in a nice peaceful village??? I laughed at you using PGR4 as a comeback....lol. What is the term SURVIVAL, Robotnik? tell us all...and don't use the reason i gave for RE4.

and srsly, using a car game..( a NON SHOOTER) to describe survival, when the goal is to win a race, is the most SILLIEST thing i have even encountered. and shows me just what kinda of close minded people come to systemwars.

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Untill someone shoots this down as NOT surival with proof, RE4/RE5 are considered SURIVAL HORROR GAMES...(its even labeled that by capcom..so go argue with them)

1, especially on pro, you can easily run out of ammo. FACT!

2.Enemies are aggressive and stay in packs...easily taken down if reloading at bad times or not using the right weapons. FACT!

3. timed button sequences, relys on speed and quickness to survive...giving the player more tension and anxiety.FACT!

4. REGENERATORS, require precise and accurate shots to the weak point to kill...tension and axiety can be felt as each shot missed gets you closer to death. etc etc. FACT!

5. Game requires skill and stragedie to take down some opponents, using a knife of certain weapons....FACT!

Like i said....these among other gameplay elements make it s a SURVIVAL HORROR. games like condemned are so easy, as you can use anything as a weapon to kill.

People on systemwars don't even know the term SURIVAL AND HORROR.....AMAZING..then again, its a silly excuse to bash the game.

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And your just blind, period. Im a big RE fan. RE2 is one of my favourite games of all time. Yet i dont hate RE4 its one of my favourite games of last gen, and RE5 is my most anticipated game this year. Even i can tell you that its not survival horror, so just end the argument here because you are wrong, and thats all there is to it. -DrRobotnik-
so you claim its not, yet... 1, have you played demo? 2. didn't back it up with reasons. 3. define survival and HORROR..and how RE5 isn't it. 4. the GAME IS HORROR, due to the enemies, atmosphere. don't know how people are so close minded and pass false opinions as facts. gsus.
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]RE4 had more HORRIFIC enemies and atmosphere, than the classic RE's....(wow a empty mansion) The regenerators, simply kill any classic RE villian in terms of sheer fright and tension, the game is also LONGER and if played on pro...HARDER. I can't count the many times when i was out of AMMO for one part, when you get swarmed by the enemies. Just because it has a new perspective, able to by weapons...doesn't make it a full action game. LOL. it just a term made up to bash the game. the classic RE's weren't even scary, unless you found errir music or empty mansion scary...god sakes, one of the bosses was a PLANT. foxhound_fox

Have you by chance ever played Condemned: Criminal Origins or System Shock 2?

There is no substantial debate about the "horror" aspect of RE4 and 5... its the "survival" aspect. Horror is usually defined by anxiety and disturbing violence. Which is only made worse by the survival aspect.

Plus... the base shotgun can down entire crowds of Ganados... I wouldn't exactly call that "tough."

another person who hasn't played the RE5 demo, nor RE4 on pro. So a game is considered survival horror if the elemets or the game, are DISTURBING, ANXIETY? lol, some RE4 BOTH HAS. i think people have forgotten RE4 and what the game actually had. RE4 survival aspect: 1, especially on pro, you can easily run out of ammo. CHECK! 2.Enemies are aggressive and stay in packs...easily taken down if reloading at bad times or not using the right weapons. 3. timed button sequences, relys on speed and quickness to survive...giving the player more tension and anxiety. 4. REGENERATORS, require precise and accurate shots to the weak point to kill...tension and axiety can be felt as each shot missed gets you closer to death. etc etc. these among other gameplay elements make it s a SURVIVAL HORROR. games like condemned are so easy, as you can use anything as a weapon to kill.
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]RE4 had more HORRIFIC enemies and atmosphere, than the classic RE's....(wow a empty mansion) The regenerators, simply kill any classic RE villian in terms of sheer fright and tension, the game is also LONGER and if played on pro...HARDER. I can't count the many times when i was out of AMMO for one part, when you get swarmed by the enemies. Just because it has a new perspective, able to by weapons...doesn't make it a full action game. LOL. it just a term made up to bash the game. the classic RE's weren't even scary, unless you found errir music or empty mansion scary...god sakes, one of the bosses was a PLANT. finalfantasy94

Better then that crappy RE4 final boss. One of the biggest dissapointments in RE for me. Gears and Resistance 2 has HORRIFIC enimies. Doesint make it a survival horror. Also dude I judge games on defauglt difficulty. Since thats what the difficulty they are meant to be played on. So far RE4 had more then enough ammo and after playing RE5 I see the same thing.

Gears and Resistance didn't have the mood, atmosphere or enemies that would be considered remotly SCARY or Tense filled. Thanks to the gameplay, dialog, story...the games are purely an action war shooter. you could blast through those games so easily, even on the hardest difficulty...(i've done it) RE4 is simply different, More tension, weapons are less powerfull, can't move and shoot (reserves tension) ammo depletes quicker, enemies are much more freaky and harder to kill. (see parasite dogs, regenerators, flying creatures, etc) then again, your a retro RE fan, who hates RE in its current form, no point in debating, you'll find any excuse, since your blinded by rage. lol just play RE4 on pro and come back to me. The classic re's were just as easy if not easier, IMO...and thats on the standard difficulty. you make NO sense.
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Your signature is pretty much proof its not survival horror. Rambo is the enemy of survival horror.

finalfantasy94

???? only made it due to his SIZE...which has NO effect on what the game is.

lol the funny thing is thats what I call RE4/5 its rambo with parasites. Everytime you try to call this game a survival horror dude its not. Why cant you accept that fact? We all have. Im not saying it makes the game bad. Its just not like RE anymore. Also this tweaking of animation. Where was this when I was playing the demo. Animations look the exact same dude. Im a big RE fan and I know the way the serious went. Its an action shooter now. Just suck it up and accept it.

lol, because it isn't fact. but a hatefull opinion...the game is labelled a survival horror game. But NOW I SEE, since it isn't exacty like the previous BROKEN RE versions, it's automatically an action game. YEH RIGHT. i've explained my reasons with the 2nd last post.. PROVE me wrong. as for the animations, they have been improved upon, guess you haven't played RE4 in awhile..go back and see the difference.
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RE4 had more HORRIFIC enemies and atmosphere, than the classic RE's....(wow a empty mansion) The regenerators, simply kill any classic RE villian in terms of sheer fright and tension, the game is also LONGER and if played on pro...HARDER. I can't count the many times when i was out of AMMO for one part, when you get swarmed by the enemies. Just because it has a new perspective, able to by weapons...doesn't make it a full action game. LOL. it just a term made up to bash the game. the classic RE's weren't even scary, unless you found errir music or empty mansion scary...god sakes, one of the bosses was a PLANT.
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Your signature is pretty much proof its not survival horror. Rambo is the enemy of survival horror.

hakanakumono

???? only made it due to his SIZE...which has NO effect on what the game is.

Yes it does. The steroid freak they made out chris to be is a factor.

lol, so his superhuman now? you don't use weapons to play the game, just strength?
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#10 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I love RE4 and will love 5 but you can't say with a straight face that it's a survival horror game. When you have tomatoes dropped ammo you know there is too much.Aljosa23
Yes i can, play RE4 on pro, PLAY the RE5 demo...better yet, wait until its released to fully judge it.

Why don't you do the same thing. :?

you serious? i'm not the one claiming something isn't this, when the game isn't out. I've well addressed the game from the demo and what it is. Most of you go by video's and screen shots. What i mean by it is that, the game is suppose to have much darker and HARDER levels, something we have yet to see. spin it all you want, but RE5 is a surival horror, its labelled that and it simply is that. Common sense.