[QUOTE="Maelkav"]SO, does liking Nintendo games and buying a Wii make me a sheep? Maybe I just enjoy those games and wanted to upgrade from my XBOX and PS2.foxhound_fox

I don't think "they only buy and play games on their "supported" system" is fair. Do I need to own BOTH a PS3 AND an XBOX360 AND a Wii to NOT be considered a fanboy of any of those systems?

"will blindly spew corporate propaganda like it was their own" is spot-on, though.

If you're talking about the hardware design of the platforms, the Wii is using the same architechture as the Gamecube and is therefor not next-gen. The Wii is obviously the "next-gen" in terms of it being Nintendo's new console.... but that's not even up for debate.

Everyone arguing that Wii isn't next-gen is refering to the generations of hardware technology. The Wii is old hardware and not next-gen in that sense, end of story. That doesn't prevent you from enjoying it but don't think you're buying anything more than a $250 Gamecube and a Wiimote.

Lazy_Boy88

With your agument, no PC games can EVER be "next gen", because PCs have been using the same basic architecture for almost 2 decades.

Is this a viable argument?

The reason the Wii's classification comes under so much fire is all down to Nintendo themselves. By originally saying things like "Wii is not next-gen, it's new gen" Nintendo have sheparded their own fans into the valley of denial. I believe their craving to be different is purely a clever marketing technique, coined in an attempt to set them apart from the crowd. The truth, in actuality, is far from that. They are part of this flock you call 'next-gen', like it or not. 

-Spock-

Evryone in all camps is guilty of misusing the term "next-gen" (even though it is now "current gen)

I've heard Wii-users say that the PS3 and 360 AREN'T next gen because "all they got is nice graphics". Well, that would be a gross simplification of those two systems, which offer a LOT of "next gen" stuff.

[QUOTE="stvee101"]ok i'll admit I was a bit quick off the mark criticizing the wii line up,but it seems all the sheep do is harp on about sales pleased that a nintendo home console is finally selling and are happy with whatever dreck comes out for it as long as sales are good.why arent sheep hyping some of these lesser known titles?foxhound_fox

SO, does liking Nintendo games and buying a Wii make me a sheep? Maybe I just enjoy those games and wanted to upgrade from my XBOX and PS2.

If people are going to continually throw around term like "next-gen", it would be nice if people knew what it actually meant.

Wikipedia defines it as such The phrase Next Generation is cited as a frequently-used buzzword, in which case its meaning is intentionally vague, but carries a connotation of newness or modernness. See buzzword for an explanation of this usage.

 Now, let's look at the "newness" of all three modern consoles, and please forgive me if I leave anything important out.

 XBOX360

- HD capable 

- better graphics than last gen

- wireless controllers (that actually work well)

- "updated" XBOX controllers (a few extra buttons)

- XBOX live and Live Arcade (better than last gen)

- better hardware than last gen

- downloadable demos from Live (previously available only on PC)

-next-gen multimedia (HD-DVD)

- (somewhat) backwards compatable

PS3

- better graphics than last gen

- wireless controllers

- "updated" PS2 controllers (inludes Sixaxis functionality)

- Next-gen mulitmedia (can burn CDs[?], Blue-Ray)

- HD capable

- PS3 "Home" (PS2 had nothing like this)

- Better hardware capability that last gen

- Does PS3 have a "virtual console" or "arcade" equivalent?

-backwards compatable

Wii

- better graphics than last gen (This is not a sheep opinion. Just check out screenshots of Galaxy and MP3)

- wireless controllers

- "Wii-mote" controllers. A new control scheme unlike previous-gen consoles.

- WiiConnect24

- Virtual Console

- backwards compatable

- wireless functional tie-in with Nintendo DS handheld on some games

- Miis. (call foul all you want. No previous system had "profiles" like this, and even PS3 seems to be taking the hint with "Home")

- multimedia (cannot play DVDs, but can show pictures and play music[?])

- better hardware capability than last gen (graphics aside, no console last-gen could have handled what the wii-mote does)

- backwards compatable (can even use last-gen controllers and memory cards)

Now, looking at this list, can ANYONE truly say that any of these systems ISN'T "next gen"?

If the PS3 was $375 the Wii would be collecting dust.

 

The Wii is selling cause it's cheap, get over it. 

miss_kitt3n

Faulty logic.

To a casual/non-gamer, $250 for the system plus another $100 for another controller and one game is still plenty of cash to spend on a "toy", and yet still people are buying it.

Give me one good reason that DOESN'T have to do with the multimedia capabilites (which really has nothing to do with it anyways) why a casual/non-gamer would buy a PS3, even if it was $375.

As a Wii owner, I could care less. I'm very satisfied with my system.

Wii bashing is not stupid. If it was, it would seem equally viable that 360 and PS3 bashing is stupid. It's system wars. Everyone has an opinion. Get over it.

While ps3 and 360 owners will be playing the likes of mass effect,halo 3 ,assassins creed ,mgs4 and Heavenly Sword etc  in the next 12 months ,what have you guys got? some updated nintendo franchises? fair enough but what else ?another collection of non/minigames? seriously can someone give me a list of the wii's release schedule for the next 6 -12 months.I'll hold my hands up if someone can prove me wrong.

stvee101

Hah. "some updated franchises"?

What are Halo 3 and MGS4?

Please give up on arguing. Your post fails.

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

 

XBLA arcade is garbage compared to VC. 

Titan_of_NYC

No. He wins. C-SotN is ONE game. Sheep-bashers will say, "One game doesn't sell a system!" If a Wii owner used the argument of "Zelda", you would jump all over him.

I call hypocrite. VC wins, hands down.

Sorry but Wii is lacking games. You're the blind fanboy. And Wii is the least bashed console around here for some reason. It's easily the worst in terms of current lineup.Riviera_Phantom

Worst lineup? *cough*PS3*cough*. But this isn't a lineup thread.

I'm very satisfied with my Wii, but I can see where many gamers are disappointed. If they're disappointed, I'm sorry to hear that, but it doesn't make the Wii a crap system. You want the best system? Go PC.