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What's more sad is that none of the games for PS4 at the show could outdo a game that "was done on a 360 engine,with baked effects every where it should ran at 90 with what was doing."

tormentos

Apparently you missed Infamous PS4 which craps all over Forza has next gen effects and is open world.

Something that is really pushing the console.

Frames mean sh** when what your a pushing is nothing special.

Forza is a damn racer it should be 90 FPS with baked effects,at least everything on Drive Club is dynamic.

You keep rambling about "baked" effects. I don't care how they're done. A game looks good or it doesn't. Forza was the best looking driving game at E3.

And btw, PS4's controller sucks.

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[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

Xbox one games at E3 weren't on xbox one hardware they were running on windows 7 with a nivida graphics card :S a high end nivida graphics card.

tormentos

And yes, there were some games that were - categorically, without a shadow of a doubt - running on Xbox One hardware. It'll come as little surprise to learn that first party software was more likely to be showcased running on the new console, with Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 5 the most high profile title we saw that was visibly operating on the actual unit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4

Is a sad day when teh best game on the show was done on a 360 engine,with baked effects every where it should ran at 90 with what was doing.

What's more sad is that none of the games for PS4 at the show could outdo a game that "was done on a 360 engine,with baked effects every where it should ran at 90 with what was doing."

Wow thuway and bruce are officially fanboys.  Them calling 6gb is a joke now.   4.5 ram looking more and more valid.   Didnt cows tout thuway ?   Lol vindicated.   Owned isnt the word

XBOunity

Just as they were wrong about the RAM and wrong about the CPU cores (They went on and on about Xbox One reserving 2 cores for the OS. Turns out PS4 does the same thing) they are likely wrong about the GPU when it comes to the OS as well. We keep hearing about Xbox One's GPU having 10% of its resources reserved for background tasks but I feel pretty confident that the same sort of thing will leak about PS4 eventually.

Upped 53 mhz, eh? Well, it ain't much but at least something.

This political correctness needs to die. clyde46

It won't. The country will die as a result of it first. But that was probably the point.

It's averaging 88% at metacritic. What is gaming history to you ... the last 3 or 4 months?

You can buy the camera system for the PS4 seperate for 60 bucks. So you can get the system and camera for 40 dollars less than the xbox one.

 

PS4 has better hardware for less. If you got a xbox one without the camera then you would just have a weaker PS4 that is missing the one thing that makes it different.

Gargus

I'm no fan of Kinect but judging from what I've read it's much more state-of-the-art than what Sony's version is. Sony designed their console better but MS unquestionably has the better camera gadget.

The only negatives of the Xbox One to me are Kinect and the GPU. It's not them making Kinect that bothers me, just don't like them forcing you to buy it even if you don't want it. And then there's the $500 price as well but that also ties in with Kinect being bundled with it. The negatives aside, however, they have the better controller and I'm confident XBL will continue to be superior to PSN (For one thing they're investing huge amounts of money on dedicated servers. They always stay a step ahead of Sony when it comes to online) and although they may not end up having as many exclusives they will have the better ones. They could still take Kinect out of the box if the mood strikes them but at this very late hour it's looking like they aren't going to do anything about the underwhelming GPU.

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It will most likely be the best powerhouse console on the market and I'll be using it for 3rd party a lot, but Nintendo's first party completely decimates Sony's. 

The ultimate console would be one that plays Nintendo's first party as awell as all the 3rd party games.

Pikminmaniac

Lol, I see this claim all the time and for the life of me I still can't figure out how a company remaking the same 3-4 games over and over and over again for 30 years is somehow better than anyone else.

Gameplay, level design, and challenge are the three pillars of a quality game. These three aspects are exclusive to this medium and are timeless. Nintendo incorporates these three pillars better than most other developers. That's why they are the best 1st party in the industry IMHO.

They should have the level-design down pretty well considering the've been reworking them over and over again for the same franchises since I was a kid!