Nope not the least bit interested in LA Noire nor am I interested in anything Rockstar produce on the PC after the mess they created with GTA 4 on the PC. Rockstar have shown they have absolutely no interest in developing or producing competent products on the PC so I don't see why I should reward them with my hard earned cash.

not only was the clerk surprised that I wanted the PC version, he took the request as a reason to try and sell me a PS3 on the spot.Simkid

I wouldn't worry about it, you will have the last laugh when the clerk becomes unemployed after the consoles switch to DD as well :P Remember the PC leads and other platforms follow.

Costs have gone up, its just a fact, but I concede inflation statistics depends on the Govt releasing them.urbangamez

If it is down to costs going up then why haven't they increased the console game price ? If it costs them $60 to make/manufacture a PC game then obviously it must cost them $60 to do the console version as well, then add on the extra cost of the console royalty fee which is about $10 and hey presto if it is down to costs then console games should be $70. The PC price increase is NOT down to costs increasing it is down to the fact they think they can get away with charging $60 since they do so already on the consoles.

EA says game development costshas peaked,has after production costs peaked ie distribution costs, advertising costs, support costs... peaked too :? some of these costs indeed parts of all these costs, are beyond EA's control.urbangamez

Yeah I see what you mean about distribution costs going up on PC titles, all those lorries don't run on water do they ? oh wait a minute at least 80% of PC copies sold are via digital distribution (not a lorry in sight there). As for advertising costs when was the last time you saw them advertise a PC game ? This is not a cost issue, the PC version is probably the cheapest version for them to actually make in terms of costs.

You also have not addressed my point. MS and Sony produced the present generation of consoles at a loss, that's a fact. They had to reduce the prices of the consoles even though they were losing money because of the competition, why oh why would they increase the cost of their games, can you imagine MS saying that games for the 360 are going to be increased by $10 in which market would they continue to exist, also used games sales helps consoles, where can I buy a used PC game.urbangamez

I never addressed it because it has no relevance to this topic. I am aware that MS and Sony sold their consoles at a loss initially this generation. They did this because they tacked on a 10 buck tax onto every game sold. So console gamers got cheap hardware but more expensive games. The PC user did not receive any benefit like that, we paid through the nose for our hardware and since there is no royalty fee I think it is only proper that we should expect our games to be at least 10 bucks cheaper than the console version because our hardware is NOT subsidised by game sales.

Why haven't they raised the price to $70 on the console version ? Probably because they know they can't get away with it, so they do the next best thing and raise the price of the PC version to make it on par with the console version despite the fact the console version has greater costs involved. So at the end the price increase is NOT down to costs increasing it is down to them doing it because they think they can get away with the new price tag on the PC.

Now judging by some of the replies on here it looks like they can and will get away with it too.

why would they raise the price of their games, to ruin their console sales :? urbangamez

Your initial point was that costs have gone up so prices go up. I merely pointed out that the consoles would have the same cost increases but they haven't put console prices up by an extra $10. Besides it isn't set in stone that costs have gone up. I remember reading that EA are on record as saying that game budgets have peaked and they expect them to go DOWN. So rather than costs going up it actually looks like costs are going down but they still increased the price of a PC game by $10

http://techgage.com/article/have_game_development_costs_peaked/

They are NOT ditching GFWL, if you buy Fable 3 from Steam it will still come with GFWL infested in it. There have been plenty of GFWL titles sold on Steam, the most obvious one is GTA 4. All MS are doing is showing that they have little or no faith in their Games For Windows MARKET PLACE.

Seems to be the trend, petrol has gone up to $4.00 where I am, so has....

urbangamez

Yet console games haven't gone up in price though have they ? Nope they are still $60 which includes a $10 royalty fee that PC gamers do not have to pay. Now if the publishers are arguing that costs have gone up they have to increase the price of the PC version to $60 then that is fair enough but I would've thought these increased costs would also affect the console pricing too and that should go up to $70. Oddly enough though they haven't done that have they.

My guess it's mainly pirates that complain about it.Matrix

Your guess would be wrong then because pirates disable GFWL from the game. If you don't understand why people have a problem with GFWL then that is fair enough, but please don't try and start with "oh it is only pirates that complain". It isn't pirates that are complaining it is legitimate customers that are complaining, pirates don't have to deal with GFWL at all.

I guess we are entitled to cheaper games because we paid more for our gaming devices. Gotta love entitlements.

Wasdie

No we are "entitled" to cheaper games on the PC platform because there is no 10 buck royalty fee being paid to Microsoft or Sony.

Not really interested in "cowboy" games and with Rockstars history of extremely poor ports on the PC means I would avoid it like the plague anyway. However if you want to play RDR or any of Rockstars past, present or future catalogue then you are probably best purchasing a console. It is pretty clear Rockstar are no longer interested in developing for the PC now (not that they were that bothered before).

Expect DX11 and 12 to kick into high gear after BF3 at the earliest, or more realistically, after the next gen consoles arrivewis3boi

Pretty much this, we will have to make do with Dx9 till Microsoft brings out a new Xbox which utilises Dx11 and then we will be stuck with Dx11 for god knows how many years etc etc wash and repeat and all that jazz.