Top article on IGN: "Despite some confusion this morning about whether the number represented units shipped or units sold, Sony has now confirmed to IGN that Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception sold 3.8 million copies worldwide on its first day in stores. "

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212156p1.html

I am honestly very surprised but good for them.

ohgeez

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212156p1.html

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nono this is not just oh lol hey it's shipped nananana /MS fanboy

Sony lied.

That's the point. I would prefer if it was true....

SuperFlakeman

They spinned their statement to a point it becomes a lie.

Again when COD/Halo break records, they give revenue numbers from consumer purchases to go with it. Halo 3 was around 200 million dollars in its first day of release.

Austindro

Nono this is not just oh lol hey it's shipped nananana /MS fanboy

Sony lied.

That's the point. I would prefer if it was true....

SuperFlakeman

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

Everytime Sony announces sales, Lems go crazy about "that's SHIPPED, not SOLD!"

SuperFlakeman

Yeah well when you see people like me who avoids 99% of Sony/MS threads, then you should know this time something is different.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

Cows just face planted in this thread...

ImportBMWRacer

1.) Sell in numbers are leading. If the units don't sell through, the retailers won't reorder. It's like when Lems were screaming about fake numbers and channel stuffing in the second and third fiscal report threads last year... "No way PS3 outsold 360, those are just SHIPPED numbers! They're stuffing the channel to look better!" Ok... but if the units aren't getting bought, they won't be restocked, and the following quarters numbers will plummet. "Stuffing the channel" to inflate sell-in numbers isn't sustainable, so when the numbers are high quarter after quarter, it means those units are actually being bought. Same deal here. Anyone who thinks those copies aren't going to sell, or that U3 won't end up fairly close to Gears 3 in total lifetime sales is fooling themselves.

2.) Sell in data is accurate. Companies can easily report how many units they've sold to retail worldwide. Sell through data is always just a guess. It's based on either the ompany's own records of tracking supply demands from retailers reordering to replace sales (in other words, exactly the same as the sell in data, only trailing, or counting the restocking orders coming back in, rather than leading, or counting the units as they go out) OR market tracking firms, which do not cover all markets, and only track a sample of retailers, and extrapolate the rest (fancy word for "make an educated guess, based on a sample of data").

So yeah.

Cows just face planted in this thread...

Austindro

1.) Sell in numbers are leading. If the units don't sell through, the retailers won't reorder. It's like when Lems were screaming about fake numbers and channel stuffing in the second and third fiscal report threads last year... "No way PS3 outsold 360, those are just SHIPPED numbers! They're stuffing the channel to look better!" Ok... but if the units aren't getting bought, they won't be restocked, and the following quarters numbers will plummet. "Stuffing the channel" to inflate sell-in numbers isn't sustainable, so when the numbers are high quarter after quarter, it means those units are actually being bought. Same deal here. Anyone who thinks those copies aren't going to sell, or that U3 won't end up fairly close to Gears 3 in total lifetime sales is fooling themselves.

2.) Sell in data is accurate. Companies can easily report how many units they've sold to retail worldwide. Sell through data is always just a guess. It's based on either the ompany's own records of tracking supply demands from retailers reordering to replace sales (in other words, exactly the same as the sell in data, only trailing, or counting the restocking orders coming back in, rather than leading, or counting the units as they go out) OR market tracking firms, which do not cover all markets, and only track a sample of retailers, and extrapolate the rest (fancy word for "make an educated guess, based on a sample of data").

So yeah.

People believing this are Blind. Sony always lie about sales, IT's shipments not Sales. Uncharted 3 barely sold a 1 million first week and you're telling me 4 million in a day? are people this stupid?

EBcause it's BS in fact it's been confirmed Sony pulling the SHIPPED number again. Pathetic. WE SHIPPED 10 million MOVE but only sold 1 Million. Hope they get hacked again. The_Djoker

So much wrong... Sony always lie about sales? Can you provide a link to a single time Sony has lied? BTW, using sell-in numbers as sold isn't exactly a lie, unless they specifically said "sold through to consumers." Almost all businesses, in almost all industries use sell-in numbers, because most industries, gaming included, don't have any way to accurately track 100% global sell through: sell through is either based on market tracking firms (like NPD), which are estimates, and don't cover all markets, OR based on supply reorders from distributors... which isn't 100% accurate either. A retailer might reorder more or less than they actually sold based on whether they think the products sales will remain steady, go up, or go down.

I assume you mean U2 barely sold 1 million in a week, versus 3 selling almost 4... As I've said numerous times, comparing U2 to U3 sales shows a lack of sense. When U2 came out, there wasn't nearly as much momentum. It was still fairly untested... sequel to a game that sold a few million and was under 90% on MC, and released to a global install base of 25-30 million PS3s. It started off slow, based mostly on word of mouth, but ended up one of the most critically acclaimed games of the gen, with a 96 MC, and everyone (AND their mother's) stacked Game of the Year awards on it, with a lifetime total of around 5 million. Meaning Uncharted 3, rather than being sequel to a game that didn't have that much exposure, is sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed games of the gen, with a huge ad campaign, MP Beta, and early access promo, and is launching to a global install base over 55 million, roughly doubled since U2 came out.

I don't know where you're getting "shipped 10 million Move but only sold 1 million," but the "hope they get hacked again" pretty much paints you as a bitter hater. I mean, I may be a PS3 fan... but I don't go around saying things like "I hope all the new 360's break and chew up their owners discs!"

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="Grawse"]

I'm so going to sig this thread when the real sales numbers come out and we find out Gears 3 doubled Uncharted 3's first week sales.

Cows are about to get even more desperate after Gears 3 outscored UC3.

crusadernm

This I can guarantee you though. Gears 3 sold more to consumers than Uncharted 3. I bet my account on this.

Maybe those people who played the uncharted 3 beta more than gears knew they wouldn't buy it so they tried to get as much mileage from it as they can. Who knows.

Personally, I could care less whether its sell in or sell through. If its just sell in, it's not like the copies aren't going to sell through. Uncharted 2 sold what, 5 million to Gears 2's 6 million? Withe Gears 2 being on the market longer, having more momentum going in (Gears 1 sold and scored much better than Uncharted 1), and being on a platform with a higher install base. This time around, the install bases are pretty close, and Uncharted 3 is the sequel to one of the most critically acclaimed games of the gen, with a huge ad campaign/early access promo. How do you expect the lifetime sales of these games to end up?

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="Grawse"]

I'm so going to sig this thread when the real sales numbers come out and we find out Gears 3 doubled Uncharted 3's first week sales.

Cows are about to get even more desperate after Gears 3 outscored UC3.

Grawse