@EXxile: Its probably the best traditional RPG on Wii. Also amazing english voice acting. Graphics are top notch for what the Wii can do. Definitely check it out if you don't mind playing a game in SD.

@Marky360: Yeah its annoying, its a like fad that just won't go away. Like big hair and giant shoulder pads.

As long as they keep it like Ninga Gaiden I'm all over it.

@EXxile: Yeah Lost Odyssey was a true underated gem. Also Last Story on Wii is also super underrated masterpiece.

@Chernnunos: U forgot the preachy anti war, anti technology over nature propaganda.

@Thanatos2k: It means she doesn't neccessarily like JRPG since FF is no longer an true JRPG, its now a CGI action game. FF games are now pretty much one button and watch CGI cutscenes type game. There wasn't even dungeons in the last official FF game, just straight hallways with battles that won automatically.

So, I'm not two convinced that someone who can enjoy the new FF games as being someone who knows enough about traditional RPG to tell me how I should feel about Star Ocean.

@EXxile: Lost Odyssey was good, I just remember, yeah its a good tie.

Tales of Vesperia was too tropy for me, it felt too much like the anime cliches thats plagued all Tales games. Also the english dialogue was pretty atrocious for Vesperia for me.

@sladakrobot: Yeah, Eternal Sonata, thats right.

I liked it because the story was very unique for a JRPG, there wasn't any lost technology, some BS about anti war and humanity vs nature and abuse of the planet, and general JRPG crap that the japanese love spewing out, that preachy JRPG nonsense. But I guess people in japan like the old tropes too much to let them go, cause Eternal Sonata didn't sell well.

But the story of Chopin was very interesting to me, it the first time in a long time when a JRPG surprised me with the plotline.

You should try Ninokuni, it does have a slightly interesting plot about the metaphore of the darkness that lies within the hearts of men, and how children are free from such darkness. But then again, tons of animes have already done that trope already as well.

@livedreamplay: Every nonsense drama that stretches itself out for the sake of stretching itself out is soap opera. Tight pricise drama, with zero fillers and zero nonsense, is great drama.

Most American shows fall into soap when they stay around longer than the source material allowed for, the ones that are geat dramas, are just the right length. Its a fine line between great drama and cheesy soap.

But evil uncles, and bringing back dead people is usually a sign that you've entered soap land.

@livedreamplay: Yeah that what I mean. Soapy is nonsensical writing, thats designed to stretch something out. I.E Most Chinese soap shows.

The problem with GOT was the lock off point was too damned long. The story can't hold that many books and that many episode, its really starting to show. Also, GOT was never a closed book in that the writer knew from the get go how everything would play out, it was kind of a an artbitrary deadline on how many books they wanted to sell. So Martin, like Louis Cha started to write nonsense, i.e killing characters off and bringing them back, and introducing evil uncles and such. This is all due to the fact that there was never a definitive plan by Martin on how to fill all those pages, so as always things begin to slide into soap opera land.

The best writing comes when the author knows exactly where page 1 starts and where it ends, making up random crap in the middle to sell more books doesn't work out well.

This is why True Detective season 1 was so great, cause they knew where it begins and where it ends with zero fillers in the middle.

Game of Throne could have been a masterpiece if Martin hadn't wanted to sell so many books, it really is a story that could have ended 2 seasons ago.

Don't make it like Dark Souls, please, no more DS clones.

Just keep it like Ninja Gaiden. Thats all we want.