@livedreamplay: You telling me soap operas can't be fantasy based. Tell that to China who turn out soapy WuXia Fantasy shows like no tomorrow.
Game of Thrones is a essentially stolen from cheesy Chinese WuXia soap operas, its essentially a Western version of a Louis Cha Novel, like Condor Heroes and crap like that.
Serialized fantasy based soap operas originated from China, and Martin is just cashing in on it for the Western audience. when I first saw this show, I said, wow its a white people version of Condor Heroes, with equal amount soapyness.
P.S Louis Cha also calls his heroine from Condor Heroes "Dragon Girl" , sounds familiar.
@sladakrobot: Since you played so many JRPGs as I have, I've played them since Phantasy Star as well, you will also know that I'm right. JRPGs have become tropes of tropes of tropes.
When was the last time you were geniunely surprised by a JRPG, humanity vs nature, old tech lost from catastrophy, highschool kids embued with powers, blah blah blah. We've seen them all, there is nothing new in them for us.
Ninokuni was awesome, but still tropped the fck out.
That Chopin dying rpg was the most unique JRPG I ever played, an RPG about Chopin dying, that was some wacked shit, but it didn't sell well, cause it didn't have the traditional tropes that they love so much in Japan.
@livedreamplay: No there are good shows. Well written shows. They are few and far between, since most American shows have no closed ending, they just keep going on and on until nobody wants to watch them anymore, this style of show running leads to soapy writing, because there is only so much you can do with a story that was never meant to be stretched.
But the best non soapy shows are the ones with closed endings, fixed episodes. I.E the first season of True Detective, was the best show I ever saw in my life. But most shows do tend to slide into soap opera land once writers are forced to make up random crap to keep the shows going long after the expiration date, I,E House of Cards, started out like a masterpiece, then slid into soap opera land.
I think in order for shows to keep their quality they need to be closed off from day one, writers need to know how many seasons the show is meant to be an lock off a season count and write with a beginning and an end from the start, otherwise they all tend to slip into soap land.
@Monistic_Turtle: Dude the new Final Fantasy games are the worst of all JRPGs they are no longer even JRPGs by definition, just some weird auto combat press one button and watch the pretty pictures game.
FF games are unplayable since FFXIII, walk in straight line, press A, watch CGI cutscene, repeat. If thats what she like, then yeah I can see how a traditional JRPG can vex her.
@sladakrobot: Honestly I can predict every JRPG story and character in like 5 seconds, they have been tropped out for 2 decades now. Every JRPG has the same character archtypes and same story. Read my other post.
If you are engaged in the characters in a JRPG then you've never played a JRPG before, they are all the same, right down to the same anime voice actors. Two kinds of JRPGs exist, highschool crap and fantasy sci-fi crap, and it always boils down to the some humanity vs nature crap, with the exact same set of anime trope characters spewing the same dialogue to nauseam.
Only JRPG to surprise me in the past 2 decades was the one about Chopin dying in his death bed, and some chick with an umbrella, that was kinda different.
@NeverMore0: Please, JRPG stories are so tropped out I don't even pay attention anymore. Plucky innocent girl, Alien nerdy side kick, raunchy old guy, young energetic hero, old technology being lost due to some catastrophy, some man vs nature BS, add some alien encounter, a evil villain, and some cheesy anime voice overs. You have just about every JRPG ever made, you can switch all of that into a highschool environment and you get every other JRPG ever made.
Ain't nobody care about the story in JPRGs, its all the same, and has been for like 2 decades. People play JRPG to experience the same stuff over and over again, just like people play Fifa, Call of Duty, Street Fighter to experience the same stuff over and over again.
@Chernnunos: Yeah, but mind u this game was made for JRPG fans, not FPS fans or Street Fighter Fans or Fifa fans.
So how the hell can you judge a game when you hate all the tropes of the franchise?
All the things she hates are the exact things that JRPG fans love.
Would you beleive a reviewer who hates sports games on their review of Fifa. How about a reviewer who hates FPS on their review of Call of Duty. How about a reviewer who hates fighting games on their review of Street Fighter.
Everything must be judged in its own context. RPG fans need to judge an RPG, sports fans should judge a sports game, and etc.
I personally hate almost all the new Call of Duty games, but I know the games are good, they are just not for me. See my point.
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