**** Farve and his inmature ways every year and now saying well maybe in November.

Anyway I had though this months ago. Vick should go and the Vikings should of already been begging to get him.

I know my football. And yes I know where ever Vick goes he will bring HUGE PR baggage.

But listen to logic here people. It is the perfect setup and the Vikings could be down right deadly with a Vick and Peterson in the back field combo. Minasota could basicly run some crazy boot leg pitchout Wildcat style offense and Team D's would be getting schooled they would not know what to do.

Ok just imagine Vick hut hut HIKE. Ok bootleg roll out fakes the pitch to Perterson and BAM he is gone for 20 + everytime. Or never mind go ahead and pitch it to Peterson. Man just do this BS all game and The Vikings would be freaking crazy. And of course throw in some deep ball passes sometimes and then go right back to the Harlem Globetrooters style Vick and Peterson show.

Oh by the way Perfect turf for Vick to play on also. It is Perfect . Someone WAKE the Vikings up to this RIGHT NOW!!!!!!

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]...but his managing had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with his playing career.Oleg_Huzwog

Don't forget he was baseball's last player-manager. His managing most definitely had something to do with his playing career. Hell, one could argue that he was the only manager in the game who was willing to keep sticking him in the lineup long enough for him to break Cobb's record.

[QUOTE="sixringz1"]ALL AS A MANAGER! All his problems came as a manager. He's not Earl Weaver, Joe Torre, Tony Larussa, etc. He wouldn't go into the hall as a MANAGER he'd be going in as a PLAYER. There was never any proof that he did anything wrong as a player. That's like saying if Griffey Jr would retire today and become the manager of the Mariners next year and start betting on his team, then that would in some way take away from what he did on the field. That makes no sense. With that being said, he won't get voted in anytime soon because if i'm not mistaken, since it's so long since he's been retired, his eligibility goes straight to the veteran's committee and they wont vote him in. Oleg_Huzwog

I'm curious as to what part of the process you object to. Is it MLB's placing Rose on the ineligible list? (an action I'd like to point as one that Rose voluntarily accepted.) Is it HOF's rule against players on the ineligible list? Maybe you object to MLB only maintaining a single list?

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Totally. Taking roid's is so much worse than betting on your own team, not saying betting on your own team is right but it's not nearly as bad as taking steriods

What? Rose came just shy of outright throwing games and you say that's not as bad as steroids?

It's not like Rose was betting to win on every game. He picked which games to bet on and then made lineup revisions based upon his selections. He'd do stuff like purposefully NOT bring a good reliever into a tight game so that the pitcher would be fresh for a game he had money riding upon. He may not have intentionally lost games per say... but he definitely was intentionally not trying to win certain games.

That is far worse than juicing.

I also saw a report a couple days ago that stated that nike reps contacted Crawford and told him to keep his mouth shut about the incident. They didn't want to hear stories of him going around bragging about the dunk. They said if they feel he is doing that they will stop with their association with Xavier, who's jersey's and shoes are licensed by nike. I mean you can't be serious. They are treating this like the JFK assasination or something. This whole thing is a joke, and Lebron is looking more and more like a baby every day

I don't have a link but TMZ has it and ESPN has played it twice already on that show Sports Nation with Colin Cowherd. And all i gotta say about the dunk is - WACK!!!!!! That was it. This thing was built up like the be all end all of dunks. You could watch a Division II college bball game on ESPNU on a random Tuesday night and see better dunks than this. I was expecting some Vince Carter jumping over the 7 footer in the Olympics type dunk. From a talent standpoint Lebron is great, but some of his actions of late make me scratch my head. I mean this was nothing. It makes him look real petty and quite frankly, a coward who thinks he's too good to be dunked on. Courtney Lee got him in the playoffs better than this, and that was on the highlight reel for like 5 seconds. BOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

It will be tough. Artest is an upgrade over Ariza (IF and big IF, he's content being someone who might only get 10-12 shots a game), but there's no replacement for Odom. Luke Walton would be the likely person to get his minutes. He's a solid role player, but has nowhere near the skill set of Odom. I think if everyone plays the way they did in the playoffs they won't even get past Denver or SA, but if Bynume can play like he was before his injury, and NOT like he did in the playoffs, that may be able to counter Odom's loss. With that being said i haven't been following the contract offers that closely, but my understanding is that LA is offering a 3 year deal, while Dallas and Miami is offering 5 years. It would be hard to turn that down, We'll see

well if there wasn't certainty before, i think it will be a safe bet that the Ravens will make a serious offer for Marshall. And given the ravens situation, the Broncos have ALL the leverage and will ask for an arm and a leg to get him...and they'll probably get it.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]I've lost a lot of respect for this man. Espurs117

Yet your a Laker/Kobe fan? :lol:

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[QUOTE="feryl06"]

loved the player....hate the man.

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